Any observation by Google of the EU Safe Harbor Act in this post? http://www.export.gov/safeharbor/eu/eg_main_018365.asp
It’s time to extend the US Privacy Act to EU citizens
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Re: It’s time to extend the US Privacy Act to EU citizens
#42It's often claimed that politics in the US is run by / dominated by corporations. I find the contradiction in that claim at times like this to be especially dramatic. The biggest corporations in America - Apple, Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc - are actively being harmed by the US Government. US telecoms are having the doors shut to business in Europe and Asia, because of this stuff. Countless billions in pr…
Poor corporations.. Maybe we should start non-profit to help them survive. You know, each us could donate few bucks to keep these poor corporations afloat. After all what can they do with a few tens of billions in cash?
Create a Corporate Congress.
Re: It’s time to extend the US Privacy Act to EU citizens
#43Looks like Google is really worried about the antitrust movement getting steam in the EU. That's probably why MG Siegler is in the EU now.
Re: It’s time to extend the US Privacy Act to EU citizens
#44Why just EU? The EU delegates can pressure US to cover anyone under the act not just EU residents. If US bends to EU's demands about privacy but doesn't treat rest of the world similarly then it says something about US.
EU "delegates" don't have what it takes to pressure the US on anything. It's usually the other way around. EU regularly bends to US demands, not vice-versa. E.g. providing the NSA with personal data for all airline passengers flying in or out of Europe...
The US and EU are sharing data both ways. That is not a popular fact because then you can't demonize one side.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
If Apple is actively being harmed by the US Government it sure doesn't seem it as they are making more than they ever have.
The calculations on business lost to the Snowden revelations, is tallied in at least the tens of billions, and it's likely to get more dramatic over time by encouraging new European and Asian competition (to build matching scale replacement services) where there previously was not as much.
I would love to see some evidence that Apple lost money due to the Snowden revelations.
Re: It’s time to extend the US Privacy Act to EU citizens
#46Problem is quite a few european countries right now don't trust american companies anymore so they are working on their own mail service, cloud, network and hardware components, ... (you know if american companies agreed with american government to spy on us they kinda deserve a nice f k off). So who is damaged by this european behaviour? American companies. And now Google is suddenly concerned about our privacy. Mid…
"if american companies agreed with american government" Just as a reminder, The government threatened to fine Yahoo $250,000 a day if it did not immediately cave in and comply with the secret court order. http://www.wired.com/2014/09/feds-yahoo-fine-prism/ This blog post could actually be Google's way of silently signaling us that the US gov't is still strong arming american companies, and it needs the help of public…
> could actually be Google's way of silently signaling us that the US gov't is still strong arming american companies
Or it could be Googles way of looking like a good guy without actually doing anything. How you look at it depends on how much you want to trust them, or any other company that does something similar.
Personally I will never ascribe good intentions to any amoral entity. Google is going to do like every other business will do, what ever it takes to increase the bottom line.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Poor corporations.. Maybe we should start non-profit to help them survive. You know, each us could donate few bucks to keep these poor corporations afloat. After all what can they do with a few tens of billions in cash?
Create a Corporate Congress.
I knew that you must be one of the "freelancers"...
Re: It’s time to extend the US Privacy Act to EU citizens
#48In general, whenever it comes to human rights - or civil rights as Americans like to call it - it's appalling that they distinguish between citizens and foreigners (or aliens as they label us). Imagine European countries denying human rights to non citizens: Okay to torture a Somali? No problem throwing Americans in prison without trial? Sure, let's wiretap cell phones of all Turks in Europe? I don't think so.
Imagine European countries denying human rights to non citizens: cough European countries have a history of doing just that. Hence why they don't tend to do it anymore.
Yep the world used to be horrible and barbaric pretty much everywhere but we're talking about modern day.
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#49Yeah, well this wouldn't be as much of a problem if Google didn't harvest all the data just because they can, would it?
Yap, they harvest email data because they can /s
Re: It’s time to extend the US Privacy Act to EU citizens
#50In general, whenever it comes to human rights - or civil rights as Americans like to call it - it's appalling that they distinguish between citizens and foreigners (or aliens as they label us). Imagine European countries denying human rights to non citizens: Okay to torture a Somali? No problem throwing Americans in prison without trial? Sure, let's wiretap cell phones of all Turks in Europe? I don't think so.
Many of the amendments in the Bill of Rights use the term "persons", and not "citizens". Most of the basic rights in the US Constitution are extended to all human beings, even including undocumented aliens.