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C# Autocomplete Demo Using Bing Code Search Engine

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Re: C# Autocomplete Demo Using Bing Code Search Engine

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Post by yohanatan »

dbarlett wrote: post #38
andrewstuart2 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> all public github code In RAM.

Some napkin math - as of late 2013, GitHub's main Elasticsearch cluster had ~128 shards of ~120 GB [1]. Obviously they have more data now, and it's not clear whether the number of shards includes replicas, but at current EC2 on-demand prices[2]: RAM: 63 r3.8xlarge @ $2.80/hr = $176.40/hr SSD: 5 i2.4xlarge @ $3.41/hr = $ 17.05/hr HDD: 1 hs1.8xlarge @ $4.60/hr = $ 4.60/hr [1] http://www.elasticsearch.org/case-study/git…

A hybrid multi-layer cache system would likely be more cost effective and still perform nearly as well as dedicated RAM (depending on how the data is structured/sharded/queried).

Re: C# Autocomplete Demo Using Bing Code Search Engine

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Post by X-Istence »

dbarlett wrote: post #38
andrewstuart2 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> all public github code In RAM.

Some napkin math - as of late 2013, GitHub's main Elasticsearch cluster had ~128 shards of ~120 GB [1]. Obviously they have more data now, and it's not clear whether the number of shards includes replicas, but at current EC2 on-demand prices[2]: RAM: 63 r3.8xlarge @ $2.80/hr = $176.40/hr SSD: 5 i2.4xlarge @ $3.41/hr = $ 17.05/hr HDD: 1 hs1.8xlarge @ $4.60/hr = $ 4.60/hr [1] http://www.elasticsearch.org/case-study/git…

We don't even need to keep ALL of it in memory, we would just need to keep everything for the current language we are developing in.

Maybe one or two others. Say I am working on a Angular/Pyramid application, all I would need is JavaScript and Python loaded.

Re: C# Autocomplete Demo Using Bing Code Search Engine

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Post by X-Istence »

murki wrote: post #34
arikrak wrote: post #33

I always thought that people should have more built-in search power when they code. It's funny that Microsoft is taking the lead over Google on this, though I guess Google doesn't have their own IDE. Soon, modular projects will just consist of searching and plugging in components...

Android Studio.

Android Studio isn't even Google's IDE, IIRC.

Re: C# Autocomplete Demo Using Bing Code Search Engine

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Post by EpicDavi »

murki wrote: post #34
arikrak wrote: post #33

I always thought that people should have more built-in search power when they code. It's funny that Microsoft is taking the lead over Google on this, though I guess Google doesn't have their own IDE. Soon, modular projects will just consist of searching and plugging in components...

Android Studio.

Android Studio is based off of IntelliJ which is owned by JetBrains.

Re: C# Autocomplete Demo Using Bing Code Search Engine

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Post by orbifold »

justinlloyd wrote: post #35

I fear for the future of working with copy/paste programmers, but then my fears are probably unfounded because after all, this uses the Bing search engine. Searching for "///how to sort an array" will most likely just give me the top ten tourist hotels in Paraguay instead.

The problem is that only part of a solution to a problem is really in your control. Each has a potentially very large number of solutions, most of them are equivalent (renaming of variables, isomorphic control flow etc.), but some are inequivalent. For example in Haskell you could at least use iostreams, pipes, conduit or lazy io to solve the read file in and print its lines. You can't expect a developer to be familiar with every choice the Library implementors made, especially since lots of libraries do not really have stellar documentation.

Re: C# Autocomplete Demo Using Bing Code Search Engine

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Post by devcjohnson »

BigChiefSmokem wrote: post #32
kyberias wrote: post #8

Because we need to have more people using random copy-pasted code in their programs.

Yes, I rather my juniors cut and paste from StackOverflow because it means they are using a modern coding pattern and can learn from it and see great commentary about why this was the "chosen" pattern. How else are we supposed to learn? Same goes to all these clowns who champion one language/platform over another simply because of ego.

"...because it means they are using a modern coding pattern and can learn from it and see great commentary about why this was the "chosen" pattern."

Unfortunately it means no such thing. I have seen junior engineers search stack overflow and click for easiest/fewest lines of code with no regard to why.

You took the OP extreme view and countered it with your own which is equally biased. Let everyone just be honest about it is all.

How else are we supposed to learn? Actively thinking and engaging others when we don't know.

Re: C# Autocomplete Demo Using Bing Code Search Engine

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Post by crb002 »

Why aren't we using git like hashes for compilers? Take referentially transparent parts of code, blob together and make a hash of the AST in a canonical form and a hash of the assembly, source, transforms used, and benchmark stats. The compiler would run continiously searching for new solutions.

Re: C# Autocomplete Demo Using Bing Code Search Engine

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Post by kyberias »

devcjohnson wrote: post #46
BigChiefSmokem wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I rather my juniors cut and paste from StackOverflow because it means they are using a modern coding pattern and can learn from it and see great commentary about why this was the "chosen" pattern. How else are we supposed to learn? Same goes to all these clowns who champion one language/platform over another simply because of ego.

"...because it means they are using a modern coding pattern and can learn from it and see great commentary about why this was the "chosen" pattern." Unfortunately it means no such thing. I have seen junior engineers search stack overflow and click for easiest/fewest lines of code with no regard to why. You took the OP extreme view and countered it with your own which is equally biased. Let everyone just be honest abo…

My view is that it's probably not wise to automate copy-pasting code from the internet. It easily leads to just that: copy-pasting and not thinking. I'm sure that this view is not that extreme really.

Re: C# Autocomplete Demo Using Bing Code Search Engine

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Post by kyberias »

BigChiefSmokem wrote: post #32
kyberias wrote: post #8

Because we need to have more people using random copy-pasted code in their programs.

Yes, I rather my juniors cut and paste from StackOverflow because it means they are using a modern coding pattern and can learn from it and see great commentary about why this was the "chosen" pattern. How else are we supposed to learn? Same goes to all these clowns who champion one language/platform over another simply because of ego.

The demo didn't work so well that I could have verified this, and I might be mistaken, but it seems it just copies code from somewhere to the current file.

How does this help learning when one does not see the commentary from StackOverflow? That's my point exactly: if the tool automates the copy-paste, the comments are not visible.

I don't get your ego reference.

Re: C# Autocomplete Demo Using Bing Code Search Engine

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Post by herdrick »

tlb wrote: post #16

One of my pet ideas is a new programmer's editor that uses proportionally as much compute resources as Emacs did in the late-80s. An amount of computing that would show up as a major line item on your department's timesharing bill. 1000 cores costs around $50/hr, so if it boosted my productivity measurably it'd be worth it. Searching all public github code for strings matching around my cursor seems like the sort of…

http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/09/darpa-pliny-coding/
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