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Point – A smart house sitter

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Re: Point – A smart house sitter

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"Nothing is recorded or sent across the network. Peace of mind, without giving up on privacy." Respect this a lot and is a major selling point for me. If the sound analysis/processing is not done over the wire (assuming on the device) will there be a way to allow for publicly produce events (i.e. integration into systems like IFTTT, etc)?

Yep, the sound analysis is done on the device. We're working with IFTTT and others on integration, and there'll be an open API as well.

Re: Point – A smart house sitter

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I really like the idea of unobtrusive anomaly detection as a product, but I wonder how much benefit I could actually derive from this. Perhaps it is nice to have a log of whenever the front door opens, but that feature certainly won't sell me on its own. It is cool that they can tell when a window breaks, but... how much good does that notification do for me? How confident can I be that this is not a false positive a…

If you're a landlord or hotelier, this is like a black-box/speed camera/friendly supervisor for your property. Music too loud, or smoking in a non-smoking place? This thing lights up and lets your guest know to tone things down. If it gets too loud, it switches color and logs the infraction. Appliance failure or security concerns get monitored too.

> If you're a landlord or hotelier,

Yes. Also: Parent of teenagers.

Re: Point – A smart house sitter

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Glad to see at least some companies are taking an (at least semi-) offline approach to these things. With the way things have been going these last few years, the internet-of-things irks me. I've also often wondered why the home security industry seems to be so out of phase with the rest of the tech world; e.g. my house has a security system which seems to have been designed in the 70s (yet it was likely bought by th…

Our power budget gives us between one and two years of battery life. Your phone will give you a heads up when a change is required. It's a bit of a hassle, but we feel it's worth it to have the freedom from cables.

I think you should consider adding a POE option, you'll have a more reliable connection + no batteries to worry about.

Re: Point – A smart house sitter

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post #41

"Nothing is recorded or sent across the network. Peace of mind, without giving up on privacy." Respect this a lot and is a major selling point for me. If the sound analysis/processing is not done over the wire (assuming on the device) will there be a way to allow for publicly produce events (i.e. integration into systems like IFTTT, etc)?

Yep, the sound analysis is done on the device. We're working with IFTTT and others on integration, and there'll be an open API as well.

Can the firmware be updated over the internet, and can the device theoretically send sound over internet if the firmware is changed? If yes, that would be a dealbreaker for me (because, you know, crackers and the NSA).

Re: Point – A smart house sitter

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, the sound analysis is done on the device. We're working with IFTTT and others on integration, and there'll be an open API as well.

Can the firmware be updated over the internet, and can the device theoretically send sound over internet if the firmware is changed? If yes, that would be a dealbreaker for me (because, you know, crackers and the NSA).

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8550271

Re: Point – A smart house sitter

#47

Is this supposed to replace a home alarm system? can someone from Form clarify?

If you have a full-blown home security system installed currently, you might not feel that this is enough for you.

We are primarily targeting people who don't want those systems either because they are too expensive or bothersome, or because they feel that it's a tad orwellian. As I wrote in another response, many of the features have been designed with home sharers (AirBnB hosts) in mind.

Re: Point – A smart house sitter

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, the sound analysis is done on the device. We're working with IFTTT and others on integration, and there'll be an open API as well.

Can the firmware be updated over the internet, and can the device theoretically send sound over internet if the firmware is changed? If yes, that would be a dealbreaker for me (because, you know, crackers and the NSA).

That would require breaking the firmware encryption and signing schemes of multiple physically isolated processors, and even then it would be limited by the power budget, meaning transmitting audio data would drain the batteries very quickly. So, it is not completely impossible (what is, these days?) but extremely implausible and at the same time rather easy to detect; I'd say your (smart)phone is a much better attack vector ;)
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