Everybody knows Windows is a pile of garbage. What did you expect ;)?
The Windows Incident – Day 0
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#42What did you expect from a $250 device? Or, what did you expect from an 8″ 1200x800 tablet with just 2gb ram and 32gb ssd which comes with a full Windows OS, instead of Win RT? Some phones have more powerful hardware than that. It's not Microsoft's fault that Asus decided to sell a cheap, untested, poorly-built device. It's your fault, as a tech-savvy customer, to buy it.
OP explicitly states that the machine was part of Microsoft's "Signature Device" program and as such MS certainly has a responsibility for allowing these hardware specs onto the street. Nonetheless, I totally agree with notion that I would personally never have been caught in that situation due to being able to read tech specs and having internalized rough idea of Windows performance in relation to hardware setup...
OP is mistaken. The signature designation only implies that it's free of pre-installed crapware and junkware. If one wants a real Nexus like device(branded Google), then Surface is their friend(made by MS).
>as such MS certainly has a responsibility for allowing these hardware specs onto the street
And then get sued by the DoJ and split up by a court. Thanks to the antitrust ruling, MS cannot force anything on the OEMs. If you can install Windows on a 512MB RAM machine and sell it, MS can't do shit to stop you.
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#43There is so much stuff in Windows 8 that I have no idea how it got out of the building. Really incomprehensible. Clearly a cancerous culture in Microsoft ala BlackBerry letting small but insane design choices out the door
I used a Windows 8 machine the other day. I've used OSX the last few years, but used Windows for a couple of decades prior.
I was so confused. It was difficult to work out how to open apps. I also got stuck in the full screen start menu replacement (whatever that's called) and I had to ask for help to get back to the desktop.
Give me XP over 8 any day. Security issues aside, that was a gem of an OS.
Seems like the Microsoft OS team hit the panic button soon after iOS & Android gained traction and have been clawing for innovation without considering actual use cases
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
I should start an online collection of stories like this, so I could refer people to it when they complain about Apple hardware being overpriced and/or only bought by idiots.
Yeah, an also note awesome laptops like an Acer I got for $400 5 years ago and despite many many hard hits against the floor it still works and has the same battery life length. This is true, but the problem with anecdotal experience is that you can "prove" anything with it.
It's not as simple as: all Apple products are perfect and all Windows laptops are terrible. But the chances of your Apple hardware having a horrible fault, in my experience, are very significantly lower. And if it does have a horrible fault, it almost certainly won't be a stupid and maddening one caused by a third-party driver.
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#45I had a similar experience with my Asus Zenbook Prime ultrabook. I noticed that the very loud fan was running a lot faster and more frequently than it should. I checked the power settings and minimum processor state was 100%. I changed it to a more reasonable number and all was good. But 10-15 minutes later the fan would come back on full blast because that setting has been reverted back to 100%! Every time I reset i…
trackpad driver
Quick Google brought me here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/761664-asus-support-why...
It seems like the root of the problem is that their software stack is so inefficient that they have to set the CPU speed all the way to max in order to scroll without any lag... yet another point of evidence that the faster the hardware gets, the more inefficient the majority of software becomes.
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#46Consider yourself lucky you even got windows 8 installed. My lenovo laptop, with a big fat windows 8 sticker on it and win 8 screaming all over the purchase page, came with windows 7 preinstalled. Win 8 came with a bunch of dvds inside the packaging, the laptop does not even have a dvd-player.
I think this is because a lot of people didn't like Win8.
If that was the reason they wouldn't try so hard to give the impression that it is indeed running Windows 8.
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#47There is so much stuff in Windows 8 that I have no idea how it got out of the building. Really incomprehensible. Clearly a cancerous culture in Microsoft ala BlackBerry letting small but insane design choices out the door
I used a Windows 8 machine the other day. I've used OSX the last few years, but used Windows for a couple of decades prior. I was so confused. It was difficult to work out how to open apps. I also got stuck in the full screen start menu replacement (whatever that's called) and I had to ask for help to get back to the desktop. Give me XP over 8 any day. Security issues aside, that was a gem of an OS. Seems like the Mi…
>Give me XP over 8 any day. Security issues aside, that was a gem of an OS.
Yeah, security issues aside...
Windows 7 is when Microsoft finally got a consumer OS really 'right'.
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#48Everybody knows Windows is a pile of garbage. What did you expect ;)?
I don't know that. I think Windows is the best consumer OS out there.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, an also note awesome laptops like an Acer I got for $400 5 years ago and despite many many hard hits against the floor it still works and has the same battery life length. This is true, but the problem with anecdotal experience is that you can "prove" anything with it.
It's not as simple as: all Apple products are perfect and all Windows laptops are terrible. But the chances of your Apple hardware having a horrible fault, in my experience, are very significantly lower. And if it does have a horrible fault, it almost certainly won't be a stupid and maddening one caused by a third-party driver.
So chances are that 2000-3000$ piece of equpment have less faults than 300$-3000$ piece of equipment?
The problem with your argument is that you're doing a comparison of vastly different hardware and target markets. Lumping all Windows manufacturers and their laptop series into the same basket causes disenginous argument which is sadly perpetuated by Apple marketing.
Doing a relevant comparison like Apple 13" MacBooks with Lenovo's comparable ThinkPad series usually shows very comparable quality hardware and software wise.
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#50What did you expect from a $250 device? Or, what did you expect from an 8″ 1200x800 tablet with just 2gb ram and 32gb ssd which comes with a full Windows OS, instead of Win RT? Some phones have more powerful hardware than that. It's not Microsoft's fault that Asus decided to sell a cheap, untested, poorly-built device. It's your fault, as a tech-savvy customer, to buy it.
>What did you expect from a $250 device?
I don't care what it costs - it should work.
>It's not Microsoft's fault that Asus decided to sell a cheap, untested, poorly-built device.
Microsoft probably wouldn't be able to prevent Asus from selling it outright, but it could refuse to sell it through MS Store or giving it a 'signature device' branding.