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Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

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Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

#42
I can relate. I've been rejected after 2-3 months of pretty good prep by all of FB, Google, MSFT, Amz and Apple after onsites with them. It's been pretty depressing and I feel totally burned out, but the only path forward seems to be to practice harder.

All the companies above told me to try again after a year, Google mentioned I wouldn't have to do the phone screens again, so hopefully I'm not that far away from getting the job.

My advice would be to try stay positive. If you're a programmer and have a stable job, you're in the top 10-20% income wise in this Country and probably in the top 5% of all humanity. As programmers, we have the tools to imagine and make into reality whatever we chose. To top it off, we generally enjoy doing this stuff and working conditions are usually tolerable.

My current path is to keep challenging myself progressively tougher algo problems on websites like HackerRank and not get locked into the mindset of gluing together libraries all day.

All the best for next year!

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

#43

Through most of my life I always looked at any form of rejection as a form of motivation, and adhered to a sort of "next time, be so damn good they can't ignore you" mindset. I think one can take that too far, to a point where it isn't healthy, but if you channel the emotion the right way it can help you keep moving forward and keep climbing to progressively higher heights. If you want to take that approach, and say…

Read Nietzsche? Common now, OP isn't a teenager :)

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

#44
I've recently gone through similar rejection myself. I found a company through a Who's Hiring post. I breezed through three phone interviews, and it felt like the company had hired the NSA to find me, as what they seemed to be looking for was me exactly. I had an all day in person interview, felt like I had a great rapport with everyone, had no problems with any of the coding sections, had great answers for their questions, and getting the job seemed like a foregone conclusion. Then a week later I got "we've gone with another candidate". I'm pretty sure that's not true, as it's a fairly small company, and over the course of my interviews, their team page was updated a few times. No one with the position I applied for has been added since before my interview, and the job ad is still up, and in fact, has been expanded upon. So essentially, they'd rather just not have that position filled then fill it with me :\

What's funny though, is that when I first read the rejection email, the main source of my disappointment was not the job, but realizing I'm probably stuck in the midwest for another winter.

My head is up, though.

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

#45
I used to work for Amazon, and made it all the way through the Google loops once and I can tell you that you are better than the most of the candidates already, because you made it to the second or third last round.

Applying for positions in these companies comes with hard interview loops and you need to know everything about the stack your code is running on (mostly operating systems and networking). this is true for almost any role there (usually the engineering field is divided: systems, network, software and security engineering. i am not sure what sort of role you were going for but i guess software engineering. those positions also require that you are familiar with extreme scale and you are knowledgable about the usual SDE topics like data structures and algorithms. it is hard to do all of these at once at the level that you are in the top 5% who gets hired.

if you are serious about it, most of the questions and answers are leaked out to the internet so you can just google them and try to understand the problem, study it more if you are not sure (ask stackoverflow etc.) and you can pass the interview the next time (~18 months from now). next time you are going to be more prepared and potentially similar questions going to come up.

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

#46
2 months ago I went through something similar. Interviewed at this company: 2 phone interviews, one skype call, and about 6 hours of onsite (flew out to a different city).

I got another offer so I contacted the manager from the first company and the recruiter. Manager calls me up and we discuss the offer, things seem to be going well, I was happy with the offer and we agree to move ahead. Recruiter contacts me the next day saying I should be getting an offer letter by the end of the day. Next day I get a call from the recruiter saying the HR department wants to see my current pay stubs and tax documents from the last year because they want to ensure my "integrity". Things went south after that as I didn't want to give my personal information. I really liked the team and the job (what was described to me by the team / manager).

I was in the same state as you are right now, didn't really sleep properly for 3 weeks. I would suggest taking your mind off the job hunt for next week or so - - start a new project - learn a new technology that you have never touched before - hike / take long walks (helped me a lot as it opened me up to a new perspective) - volunteer (tech talks / meet ups)

Honestly, a job or a company doesn't define who you are and what skills you have, it is YOU who makes the difference.

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

#47
Not to be harsh, but I don't know if English is your second language or not, but reading the above statement, I wonder about how you came across verbally in the interview. Can you present your arguments coherently? Did you understand and answer the questions correctly? Not knowing details, I would recommend taking time to practice interviewing.

That being said, both Amazon and Google have interesting interview patterns. I've done well at both and flailed at both -- over the years. So it could just be timing as well.

Learn from it, contemplate on where you think your short comings were, practice those and move on. There are plenty more interesting companies out there.

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

#48
I've twice failed the final round of Google interviews. Just remember that if you haven't failed then you haven't really pushed yourself to the limit. Now that you're a member of the huge family of Google rejects, take a look at the myriad awesome companies out there. I ended up with a fantastic post-series A startup that has exposed me to opportunities I'd never have if I was writing boilerplate Python and PHP at Google. Though Google pays better and had free food. Working for a startup is not without its drawbacks.

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

#49
Go launch something in consumer space. Make a game for pet cats to play. People seriously have these. Games are nice since any UI with a user-achievable action is essentially a game without a score. Software portfolios and investment portfolios are remarkably similar in providing a center of consistent improvement and data feedback on which to get awesome at developing products. Android has a really low bar for entry. You have to be 26-clicks-and-a-credit-card tall to ride the ride. Launch & learn.

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Failed Interview at Google and AWS?

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post #44

I've recently gone through similar rejection myself. I found a company through a Who's Hiring post. I breezed through three phone interviews, and it felt like the company had hired the NSA to find me, as what they seemed to be looking for was me exactly. I had an all day in person interview, felt like I had a great rapport with everyone, had no problems with any of the coding sections, had great answers for their que…

If relocation is not an issue for you, there are literally tons of jobs in US. HN's hiring thread doesn't represent even a 0.01% of these... There are many great companies or big enough circles where they even never heard of "Hacker News". So you should consider the world outside HN.
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