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iCloud Uploads Local Data Outside of iCloud Drive

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Re: iCloud Uploads Local Data Outside of iCloud Drive

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Post by mcintyre1994 »

"Apple has taken local files on my computer not stored in iCloud and silently and without my permission uploaded them to their servers - across all applications, Apple and otherwise."

Presumably they actually did have permission through some ToS you have to agree to if you want to use OSX - which begs the question of what insane amount of permission they actually have here. Seems that it probably boils down to that they can make an argument for literally anything on the mac being useful for continuity, so they can probably upload anything they like by default using that claim?

Re: iCloud Uploads Local Data Outside of iCloud Drive

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Post by sauere »

quesera wrote: post #23

Interesting, but: There are two kinds of users in this scenario. Those who don't care (99%) and those who do. If you count yourself among the latter group, as I do, then it's always solid advice to choose actions which clarify your intentions. In this case: - don't use iCloud - don't use iCloud sync for the app you use for private data - do explicitly choose to save the file locally - don't enable new features like C…

To be more precise: don't use OSX. You have no control on what is happening, syncing, uploading, shadow-copying etc. in the background.

Re: iCloud Uploads Local Data Outside of iCloud Drive

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Post by sneak »

It's worse:

It would appear that iCloud is synchronizing all of the email addresses of people you correspond with, even for non-iCloud accounts, to their recent addresses service. This means that names and email addresss that are not in iCloud contacts, not synchronized to your device, and only available in an IMAP-accessed inbox are now being sent to Apple, silently.

Re: iCloud Uploads Local Data Outside of iCloud Drive

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Post by parasubvert »

mahouse wrote: post #15
whizzkid wrote: post #4

Like Adobe streaming their Photoshop software from their servers, Like Google is trying to push Chrome OS so that you DO NOT need hard drives. Big boys in market, sooner or later, will move all software and hardware power to their side leaving you with a screen, mouse and keyboard to interact with everything. As soon as companies do not have control over whatever you are doing, they are losing benefit on it. Get read…

While I agree that I definitely see this trend, this does not mean that this trend will end up winning. We have seen lots of horrible trends like this one and almost none of them survived.

I think you underestimate the momentum behind this trend: the vast manjority of users want it.

Re: iCloud Uploads Local Data Outside of iCloud Drive

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Post by amirmc »

quesera wrote: post #23

Interesting, but: There are two kinds of users in this scenario. Those who don't care (99%) and those who do. If you count yourself among the latter group, as I do, then it's always solid advice to choose actions which clarify your intentions. In this case: - don't use iCloud - don't use iCloud sync for the app you use for private data - do explicitly choose to save the file locally - don't enable new features like C…

> "There are two kinds of users in this scenario. Those who don't care (99%) and those who do." ... "The author is rightly sore that his bits got pushed to Apple due to his oversight" (emphasis mine)

This attitude is completely unhelpful. It throws those who are otherwise ignorant under the bus simply because they don't (can't?) understand how modern tech works. Is that really fair? Must we really divide the world up this way? Most of the public hasn't caught up to how modern systems work and what the trade-offs really are, and they certainly won't if this is the approach we choose to take.

It's almost reminiscent of Morlocks and Eloi from HG Well's Time Machine.

Re: iCloud Uploads Local Data Outside of iCloud Drive

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Post by parasubvert »

josho wrote: post #21
joelberman wrote: post #16

For continuity to work, it should be obvious that what you are working on must be stored somewhere other than the machine you have turned off. The obvious place is on iCloud. Just do not enable continuity if you do not want to enjoy is features.

Since the continuity feature requires Bluetooth 4, I figured the magic was done over Bluetooth and wifi. I personally don't mind using iCloud, but I understand the authors reservations. But feel the root problem is the NSA, not apple. It's too bad that America has lost control of its government and is unable to fix this.

The sadder truth is that the root problem is Not the NSA, it's the majority of Americans who don't understand the implications of their passivity. America by and large wants the NSA to spy on them. Given the number of protests swarming Washington about almost every issue under the sun, there have been a dearth about the NSA. America doesn't understand the problem and thus doesn't want to fix it.
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