Hacker's Guide to Setting Up Your Mac • Hacker News Board

Re: Hacker's Guide to Setting Up Your Mac

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Post by felixrabe » Thu, Oct 02, 2014, 7:51 PM UTC

4ad wrote: post #27

yrmt wrote: post #24

A great alternative to Homebrew is pkgin because of it's speed and the amount of packages available in pkgsrc. More info here: http://saveosx.org/

This is the work of Jonathan Perkin (from joyent): http://www.perkin.org.uk/ It's great. It really is. I never understood why it's not used by more people. Homebrew is simply awful.

Because it's relatively new and Homebrew is simply useful? Would be great if you could elaborate some, maybe I'll be the next convert :)

Re: Hacker's Guide to Setting Up Your Mac

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Post by 616c » Thu, Oct 02, 2014, 7:53 PM UTC

I do not wants to flame, but is there a reason people dislike Macports so much. I tried Homebrew when it was 1-2 years old, but stuck with ports bc it was so stable, compiles from source, and I never heard a serious problem.

I heard the opposite complaint on the net, but almost all Macports hate was from many years before.

I am the only one who chose not to rely on Homebrew!?

Re: Hacker's Guide to Setting Up Your Mac

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Post by yrmt » Thu, Oct 02, 2014, 7:54 PM UTC

spost wrote: post #38

4ad wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the work of Jonathan Perkin (from joyent): http://www.perkin.org.uk/ It's great. It really is. I never understood why it's not used by more people. Homebrew is simply awful.

Just curious, what's wrong with Homebrew? I'm just a student, not a full-time developer, but I've never had problems with it and find it pretty pleasant to use.

It's slow and it has to build the packages most of the time. pkgin will install a precompiled packages very quickly. It is also a whole C program and Homebrew is just ruby scripts.

Re: Hacker's Guide to Setting Up Your Mac

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Post by recursive » Thu, Oct 02, 2014, 7:54 PM UTC

snotrockets wrote: post #25

morganvachon wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get the joke, and it was the first thing that popped in my head too. But in all seriousness, OS X is Unix as well, and can do pretty much any Unix based task that GNU/Linux can. Sometimes the best tool for the job is the one you already own.

BSD differs from Linux in some important ways. If one of those differences affect your works, than Mac OS X is useless, even if it is Unix (and Linux, some would say, isn't)

So if operating system Z is different from linux in some way, then linux is better in that way? What if the differences positively affect your work?

Re: Hacker's Guide to Setting Up Your Mac

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Post by 616c » Thu, Oct 02, 2014, 7:55 PM UTC

yrmt wrote: post #24

A great alternative to Homebrew is pkgin because of it's speed and the amount of packages available in pkgsrc. More info here: http://saveosx.org/

Holy shit. NetBSD pkgsrc for OS X? Yes please.

(On a sidenote, I got into Arch because I heard hype, but did not even like it until I recognized the BSD outlook, with ports and pkgsrc style tools. This is very cool, and now I know what to use if I deal with OSX again!)

Re: Hacker's Guide to Setting Up Your Mac

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Post by swah » Thu, Oct 02, 2014, 7:58 PM UTC

Do any of you use Dock replacements?

I'm faster with the Windows-style taskbar and uBar (http://brawersoftware.com/products/ubar) was the sponsor of the last episode of John Gruber's podcast.

Re: Hacker's Guide to Setting Up Your Mac

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Post by DigitalJack » Thu, Oct 02, 2014, 7:59 PM UTC

616c wrote: post #42

I do not wants to flame, but is there a reason people dislike Macports so much. I tried Homebrew when it was 1-2 years old, but stuck with ports bc it was so stable, compiles from source, and I never heard a serious problem. I heard the opposite complaint on the net, but almost all Macports hate was from many years before. I am the only one who chose not to rely on Homebrew!?

I haven't used macports in quite a while, but I switched because homebrew was more up to date. It might not be the case now though.

Re: Hacker's Guide to Setting Up Your Mac

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Post by yrmt » Thu, Oct 02, 2014, 8:02 PM UTC

616c wrote: post #45

yrmt wrote: post #24

A great alternative to Homebrew is pkgin because of it's speed and the amount of packages available in pkgsrc. More info here: http://saveosx.org/

Holy shit. NetBSD pkgsrc for OS X? Yes please. (On a sidenote, I got into Arch because I heard hype, but did not even like it until I recognized the BSD outlook, with ports and pkgsrc style tools. This is very cool, and now I know what to use if I deal with OSX again!)

Of course! pkgsrc runs on a lot of OS :)

Re: Hacker's Guide to Setting Up Your Mac

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Post by dfc » Thu, Oct 02, 2014, 8:02 PM UTC

What is the difference between the cask installation suggested in the link and the cask installation procedure suggested on the cask home page?

  $ brew tap phinze/homebrew-cask ; brew install brew-cask  

  $ brew install caskroom/cask/brew-cask

FYI: The grep in homebrew/dupes is not a newer version of the grep provided by OSX. OSX grep is the BSD variant, hb/dupes provides GNU grep. I am always shocked by how poorly BSD grep performs compared to GNU grep. I think you need to provide the `--default-names` option in order to use GNU grep in place of BSD grep.

Re: Hacker's Guide to Setting Up Your Mac

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Post by matthewmueller » Thu, Oct 02, 2014, 8:02 PM UTC

astrange wrote: post #30

This "cool hacker settings for your Mac" script turns off your laptop's power saving features (sleep, display dimming, hibernation even though sleep was off(?)), removes at least three kinds of backups for data loss (MobileTimeMachine, Resume, hibernation file), and changes AppKit settings in a way your customers will never be using (by turning off Automatic Termination, which is pretty harmless). Please don't run sc…

Completely agree, you should definitely closely inspect any script you run, before running it. These settings have been working well for me, but I may tweak them in the future.