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Re: Bash.org is back

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This deserves way more than 70 points in 2 hours. If bash.org isn't up HN's alley I don't know what is!

The current "most recent" quote is pretty unfortunate; not only is it sexist, but also a pun! DOUBLE WHAMMY. But I would implore folks to look past that type of thing (by voting it down) and find true gems :)

your lack of humour is unfortunate.

Re: Bash.org is back

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The current "most recent" quote is pretty unfortunate; not only is it sexist, but also a pun! DOUBLE WHAMMY. But I would implore folks to look past that type of thing (by voting it down) and find true gems :)

your lack of humour is unfortunate.

oh yeah? well.... uh... your...

wait give me a minute...

http://bash.org/?754254

Re: Bash.org is back

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The main rule on HN is you have to be nice, and the main rule on IRC is exactly the opposite, so I don't see it getting many upvotes here

There's a fair amount of IRC channels which are nice (and where that's enforced). IRC is a technology, not an ideology, just like the WWW that underpins HN.

Yes, I agree that it's not all IRC channels, but you can see from the average bash.org quote how 'the social crowd' feels about this kind of talk.

WWW is a hypertext transport protocol, so it's not really like IRC at all. IRC is a group communications platform, and when you compare it to every other group communications platform, it's obvious it has a very particular culture. Part of that is inherent to the technical design of the protocol and its admin features. But mainly it's how humans interact in groups, and the features of the protocol being used by that nature, that shifts expected behavior.

The only things I can think of to compare IRC to is YouTube and Xbox Live voice chat. Short messages that are often a running commentary on some subject, which can devolve into unrelated argument, and is often filled with hateful and insulting diatribe. Anonymity preserves the behavior, and the lack of down-moderation of these comments, along with a total lack of consequence, means people get to say whatever they like. And often people have some pretty fucked up things to say.

In IRC's case, the technology can actually encourage the behavior because the ops decide what is acceptable or not. If the ops condone hate speech, it becomes acceptable culture. And due to the 24/7 nature of IRC, there's little way other than bots to monitor a channel all the time. You're right that the technology itself is not the main factor in how people behave using it, but human nature itself - when run amok - can often result in negative behavior. So IRC is a shithole not because of the technology, but because of people.

Re: Bash.org is back

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post #28
post #17

This deserves way more than 70 points in 2 hours. If bash.org isn't up HN's alley I don't know what is!

The current "most recent" quote is pretty unfortunate; not only is it sexist, but also a pun! DOUBLE WHAMMY. But I would implore folks to look past that type of thing (by voting it down) and find true gems :)

Sorry guys, forgot that offering opinions that say something isn't really treating women properly is a akin four letter word on hacker news!

Anyway, my point was that the most recent bash contribution (currently voted -40) doesn't represent what bash has to offer, but that newbies shouldn't be turned off by it.

Re: Bash.org is back

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It's been years since I've visited this site. While it could use a technology update, the content is still quite humorous.

> While it could use a technology update, the content is still quite humorous.

Why? I love the fact that there is at least one site out there that remembers that plain-text web pages can run just fine if all you're doing is delivering plain text. (Hacker News is another nice, nearly-plain-text example.) What purpose would be served by a technology update?

Re: Bash.org is back

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rap: http://bash.org/?870063

dont mind me while i emerge my ownage haha, emerge. remember when Gentoo was a thing?

Those were the days... =D

I used Gentoo on my desktop for about three and a half years. I loved it. But then several things kind of added up. First, while a lot of the software was kind of bleeding edge, they took forever (more than a year IIRC) to support Python 2.5. Then POE broke, on which I had built a couple of scripts I used on a regular basis back then. All of a sudden, some of the coolest programs I had written back then stopped working. :(

And then, I was kind of offline for about a year. When I had Internet access again, the first thing I did was try to update the system. Gentoo went on a compilation spree that lasted about 36 hours, then something broke. I thought rebooting the system might help, only to discover that my system had become kind of not-booting.

So I installed Debian and haven't seen or heard much of Gentoo since. A while later somebody told me that stage-1 installs were no longer possible and was quite sad. But none of the Linux distros I use nowadays allows you the kind of control over your system that Gentoo gave you.

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