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Re: Show HN: Picnic.css, a lightweight Bootstrap alternative

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Post by cnp »

franciscop wrote: post #2

I've tried to keep it as tiny as possible with just under 3kb when gzipped. What would you change? What would you add? Any feedback or pull request is greatly welcome! MIT Licensed

Small nitpick, but you should conform your html to something more idiomatic; non-idiomatic code just screams isolation and lack of experience and those spaces between your equal signs jump right out and could scare the user off. Its silly I know, but :/

Re: Show HN: Picnic.css, a lightweight Bootstrap alternative

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Post by franciscop »

mdup wrote: post #45

Just a comment about the buttons: It feels weird that they kinda "pre-press" themselves when hovering. I guess ergonomically speaking, a button shouldn't move down while it's not pressed. On the other hand, maybe a glow or a subtle coloring could do the trick?

Thats right and also fix a .1em bug that is bothering me when hover. So glow whiter when hover and move when pressed. They are now the way they are because it was based on http://tympanus.net/Development/CreativeButtons/ , but I will also improve it (I just opened the issue in Github).

Re: Show HN: Picnic.css, a lightweight Bootstrap alternative

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Post by namidark »

egoodberry wrote: post #40

An even lighter-weight alternative: forgetting about CSS "frameworks" altogether. Aside from propping up prototypes really quickly (an exercise made trivial with these help of these little style collections) I just don't understand why anyone would want them in a real app. I've spent hours upon hours fighting the likes of Bootstrap and its copycats. And to what end?

Can you explain what you mean 'fighting'? I've heard this argument before but haven't seen any concrete examples.

Re: Show HN: Picnic.css, a lightweight Bootstrap alternative

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Post by FreakyT »

egoodberry wrote: post #40

An even lighter-weight alternative: forgetting about CSS "frameworks" altogether. Aside from propping up prototypes really quickly (an exercise made trivial with these help of these little style collections) I just don't understand why anyone would want them in a real app. I've spent hours upon hours fighting the likes of Bootstrap and its copycats. And to what end?

My general take on it is: if you find yourself "fighting" the framework, then you probably shouldn't be using a framework.

Many websites have a whole lot of overlap in terms of UI patterns (a nav bar, responsive grids, etc). Is it really necessary for every dev to hand-code that nav bar, or fight with CSS's terrifyingly bad grid support? Not really, which is why these frameworks are nice.

Re: Show HN: Picnic.css, a lightweight Bootstrap alternative

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Post by purringmeow »

egoodberry wrote: post #40

An even lighter-weight alternative: forgetting about CSS "frameworks" altogether. Aside from propping up prototypes really quickly (an exercise made trivial with these help of these little style collections) I just don't understand why anyone would want them in a real app. I've spent hours upon hours fighting the likes of Bootstrap and its copycats. And to what end?

Some of us like that you get cross-browser and device tested code that is super easy to use. You can choose what parts of Bootstrap to include in your app, so you don't bloat it.

Would you elaborate what you mean by fighting? Bootstrap is extremely simple to customize and I am no front-end guru.

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