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Shout – A web IRC client

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Re: Shout – A web IRC client

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Post by nacs »

bluedino wrote: post #32

Aren't web-based IRC interfaces just ripe for abuse and DDoS, even if they are closely integrated to the network?

This is just the demo page for the software. I believe you are meant to host this on your own server (and IP/HTTP-auth restrict it if necessary).

Re: Shout – A web IRC client

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Post by rdtsc »

brotoss wrote: post #42

Related question; anyone got a decent IRC desktop client for Windows? I'm using HexChat now, but loved Limechat wayyyy more on OSX. So much simpler/clean.

I use Pidgin. I also use it for XMPP (Google) and private Ejabberd and some other protocol I forgot. Also use the same on Linux.

Re: Shout – A web IRC client

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Post by rdtsc »

wlesieutre wrote: post #16
wut42 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love IRC but Slack/hipChat has some features IRC can't provide. Especially, the "formatted"/"preview" (images, videos, URL preview, tables) messages. Even if the IRC client supports some of theses features, the protocol is just text, you can't add meta/structured data to a message.

Along with the image previews, being able to just paste an image into chat (and have it automatically upload to S3) is a huge deal if you're working on anything visual.

I've pasted both text and images to a either a private (in-house) or public image/text pastie and then sent the link.

I find the message history mixed with images in-line a bit annoying.

Re: Shout – A web IRC client

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Post by TeMPOraL »

wut42 wrote: post #7
alrs wrote: post #6

Please let this put an end to the hipchat/slack madness.

I love IRC but Slack/hipChat has some features IRC can't provide. Especially, the "formatted"/"preview" (images, videos, URL preview, tables) messages. Even if the IRC client supports some of theses features, the protocol is just text, you can't add meta/structured data to a message.

> I love IRC but Slack/hipChat has some features IRC can't provide. Especially, the "formatted"/"preview" (images, videos, URL preview, tables) messages

Those are all features of the client UI, not of the protocol. All can gracefully degrade to plain text for people whose clients don't support them. Image/video/URL preview is an UI feature over plain link. Tables... those you can either send as ASCII-art tables, or upload to whatever paste service you like (or host) and use the same preview mechanism to show a nice table on your rich UI client.

Re: Shout – A web IRC client

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Post by TeMPOraL »

aroman wrote: post #28
ishbits wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are HipChat and Slack free enough to use as an open source project chat/support room?

Yes, we switched over to Slack from IRC/Google+ at elementary (elementaryos.org) in the early summer. It's been a massive improvement. We're starting to feel the limitations of the free tier though, so we do wish it were a lot cheaper.

Could you enumerate the particular pains you had with IRC that were eased by switching to Slack?

Re: Shout – A web IRC client

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Post by gt565k »

seffignoz wrote: post #46
brotoss wrote: post #42

Related question; anyone got a decent IRC desktop client for Windows? I'm using HexChat now, but loved Limechat wayyyy more on OSX. So much simpler/clean.

I used to use mIRC a lot, fully scriptable/customizable. Best client on windows Imho.

ahhh, the good old mIRC!

You can do some amazing scripting stuff and really customize it.

There are a lot of custom versions of mIRC online with crazy color themes and what not.

http://hawkee.com/mirc/scripts/

Re: Shout – A web IRC client

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Post by TeMPOraL »

alrs wrote: post #6

Please let this put an end to the hipchat/slack madness.

One way to fix that would be to list a set of features that hipchats, et al. have that are desirable, and then think of the way to gracefully degrade them to plain-text format.

After that, it's just a matter of implementing few plugins for popular IRC clients that would improve the UI of their respective clients to support those new features.

If anyone is going to start such endeavour, I'm willing to put some man-hours (starting next month) into writing plugins for ERC and Weechat.el, and maybe help with others.

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