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Re: Twitpic is shutting down

#41
>> "Unfortunately we do not have the resources to fend off a large company like Twitter to maintain our mark which we believe whole heartedly is rightfully ours. Therefore, we have decided to shut down Twitpic."

Is this supposed to be serious? You're shutting down your company because you're stubborn and not getting what you want??

Re: Twitpic is shutting down

#42

I wonder how well Twitpic is doing revenue and profits wise and how much that affected the decision? It's hard to believe only the patent issue is the cause here. Open closing down announcements are nice, but should list all the facts and circumstances, not try to spin it PR wise.

I was wondering that - maybe they are losing money and low on cash. There don't seem to be any patent issues - only that Twitter does not want them to register Twitpic as trademark which I can understand.

Re: Twitpic is shutting down

#43
post #28

Two lessons: 1. Don't base your entire business on another business' product. Especially one that has had such a hostile relationship with third parties. When the other business decides to discontinue your access to its service, or otherwise change things, or basically copy what you do under their own brand, you're screwed. 2. Don't create a similar name that will give you trouble in trademark disputes. (Seriously? T…

> Don't base your entire business on another business' product.

That is a terrible generalization. That pretty much covers every ISV ever. And large companies like Microsoft, Google, and Apple all have a history of "Embrace, extend, and extinguish" when it comes to closing out 3rd parties.

However I think your point is valid for companies like Twitter, and to a slightly lesser extent Facebook. These companies don't have a vested interest in 3rd parties building on their platforms.

Re: Twitpic is shutting down

#44
post #28

Two lessons: 1. Don't base your entire business on another business' product. Especially one that has had such a hostile relationship with third parties. When the other business decides to discontinue your access to its service, or otherwise change things, or basically copy what you do under their own brand, you're screwed. 2. Don't create a similar name that will give you trouble in trademark disputes. (Seriously? T…

> Don't base your entire business on another product.

Possibly the most naive statement ever made about software business models.

> 2. Don't create a similar name that will give you trouble in trademark disputes

Often this is not a problem, as once you've gotten your foot in the door you can relinquish the conflicting mark and continue your business. In any case, the trademark didn't really conflict anyway, it was just a legal tactic. The API block was the end goal.

Re: Twitpic is shutting down

#47
post #36
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Twitpic homepage[1] is also 404'ing big time, perhaps it's just a devops issue more than them pulling the plug before the sunset date? It almost seems like they're playing a little hardball and showing everyone what things will be like if they disappeared from the web, which seems to be what Twitter is threatening them with since they're unable to secure the use of their name and yet millions of images are linked…

> Twitter doesn't give a fuck about developers now that they have sufficiently used them to build their platform and brand. I really hate that this is the standard model for building startups these days. Make a free service, grow your userbase using investment money and by encouraging developers to build on your platform, then once users and developers are dependent on the platform, start littering it with ads, selli…

There is fresh meat out of school every day and they are replacing the old ones already and continuing the same way.

Re: Twitpic is shutting down

#48
post #31
post #28

Two lessons: 1. Don't base your entire business on another business' product. Especially one that has had such a hostile relationship with third parties. When the other business decides to discontinue your access to its service, or otherwise change things, or basically copy what you do under their own brand, you're screwed. 2. Don't create a similar name that will give you trouble in trademark disputes. (Seriously? T…

I don't think those lessons apply well to this TwitPic scenario, since they have been breaking them for 5 years without any problem.

Inasmuch as it came to a sudden, screeching halt even after five years highlights the value of those lessons even more so, IMHO. Five years is long enough to get (falsely) comfortable and that's when ignoring those lessons really gets dangerous for a business.

Re: Twitpic is shutting down

#49
post #36
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Twitpic homepage[1] is also 404'ing big time, perhaps it's just a devops issue more than them pulling the plug before the sunset date? It almost seems like they're playing a little hardball and showing everyone what things will be like if they disappeared from the web, which seems to be what Twitter is threatening them with since they're unable to secure the use of their name and yet millions of images are linked…

> Twitter doesn't give a fuck about developers now that they have sufficiently used them to build their platform and brand. I really hate that this is the standard model for building startups these days. Make a free service, grow your userbase using investment money and by encouraging developers to build on your platform, then once users and developers are dependent on the platform, start littering it with ads, selli…

I completely agree with you, but for the use of the word "dependent". What user is dependent on Twitter? Seriously? Can't one stop tweeting in an instant without any ill effect on her life?

For developers it's a different story -- but they should know better.

Re: Twitpic is shutting down

#50
post #7

So, there is a bunch of info we dont have... But would it not make sense to just rebrand? From a preliminary search on twitter, there is a huge amount of users still using twitpic. Seems like this is a biz that could/should make millions a year with some cost reductions and run mostly on autopilot. Also, what happens to the millions of pictures previously hosted with these guys? Even if you can backup/export all your…

>Its basically like a URL shortener shutting down

Did anything major happened after some of the early URL shorteners died? We survived just fine.

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