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Re: Sublime Text 3 Updated

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Post by polyvisual »

bithush wrote: post #27
polyvisual wrote: post #8

I've almost given up with Sublime Text. I have a bug with the Linux version on xubuntu which causes the application window to shudder when I scroll. It's something to do with smooth scrolling. I can't register at their forums as it requires a keyword which you can only get by emailing keyword@sublimetext.com - I've tried three times and each time I've been ignored. I've also tried email the other ST employee, but bee…

xyzzy3 edit: before anyone gives me shit for doing this it isn't exactly a big secret, it is a pretty poor way of 'securing' the forum. Just stick a captcha on it for gods sake.

Thanks.

I agree - it's the shittest, most user-unfriendly method of securing something against spam I've ever encountered.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Updated

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Post by coldtea »

Walkman wrote: post #34
Karunamon wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure I subscribe to the idea that ST is "dead". The base editor is stable enough for day to day use ("dev" build be damned) and all the extra functionality (i.e. new features) is provided by plugins anyways. ST could never see another update and would remain a competitive editor for daily use due to its plugin ecosystem.

No ST3 is not stable. I can choose between latest beta (3059) which often crash with 'plugin_host' so I have to restart, because none of the plugins works after that. Or I can choose 3062 which doesn't open sidebar tree sometimes, and have to restart multiple times... I think this update didn't fixed that, will see.

I use the latest betas (actually dev releases) for a year or so, and never had ANY crash ever.

I use several plugins: The Linter package + several linters, the GoSublime, JSON pretty printer, a couple of build setups for different languages, etc.

OS X of course, might be buggier in Linux. Then again I don't think Linux is a priority.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Updated

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Post by coldtea »

tuananh wrote: post #11
Karunamon wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure I subscribe to the idea that ST is "dead". The base editor is stable enough for day to day use ("dev" build be damned) and all the extra functionality (i.e. new features) is provided by plugins anyways. ST could never see another update and would remain a competitive editor for daily use due to its plugin ecosystem.

dev build is that bad ?

No, it's rock solid. Except if you run Linux it seems.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Updated

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Post by Walkman »

coldtea wrote: post #42
Walkman wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No ST3 is not stable. I can choose between latest beta (3059) which often crash with 'plugin_host' so I have to restart, because none of the plugins works after that. Or I can choose 3062 which doesn't open sidebar tree sometimes, and have to restart multiple times... I think this update didn't fixed that, will see.

I use the latest betas (actually dev releases) for a year or so, and never had ANY crash ever. I use several plugins: The Linter package + several linters, the GoSublime, JSON pretty printer, a couple of build setups for different languages, etc. OS X of course, might be buggier in Linux. Then again I don't think Linux is a priority.

I use it on OS X also, but I have to restart every day multiple times.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Updated

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Post by jrochkind1 »

I don't really understand why these new releases are called 'dev' builds, and there isn't an official non-dev ST3 build yet.

Are most people using ST3 anyway, despite the releases being labelled dev builds? Are they in fact pretty stable? Are most widely used plugins updated for ST3 (and maybe no longer supported for ST2?)

Should I just go ahead and switch ST3 "dev"?

All multiple years of 'dev' releases gets you is confusion, if this is what most people are using and most plugin developers are targetting, i wish the developer would just call it a release.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Updated

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Post by jrochkind1 »

coldtea wrote: post #35
ceronman wrote: post #14

I love this editor and it makes me sad to see how the project is stalled. In 2002 the investors behind Blender launched the "Free Blender" campaign. They asked for 100,000 EUR as a one-time fee for open sourcing it. At the time the project was dying as a proprietary product. The investors got the money and today Blender is a healthy open source project. I would love to see something similar with Sublime Text. The aut…

> I love this editor and it makes me sad to see how the project is stalled. Stalled? It just had an update. It's also in the 3rd version, under development, which came just a couple of months after the 2nd version had been released. He could just have released ST2 and keep it at that version for 3-4 years. Instead he immediately started development ST3, which had frenetic development in the first months, and has been…

> and has been completely stable for a year or more

If this is true, why are the releases still labelled 'dev' releases?

How is anyone supposed to know that it's actually a stable release they should be using? Research it on HN comment threads?

Re: Sublime Text 3 Updated

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Post by coldtea »

coldtea wrote: post #42
Walkman wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No ST3 is not stable. I can choose between latest beta (3059) which often crash with 'plugin_host' so I have to restart, because none of the plugins works after that. Or I can choose 3062 which doesn't open sidebar tree sometimes, and have to restart multiple times... I think this update didn't fixed that, will see.

I use the latest betas (actually dev releases) for a year or so, and never had ANY crash ever. I use several plugins: The Linter package + several linters, the GoSublime, JSON pretty printer, a couple of build setups for different languages, etc. OS X of course, might be buggier in Linux. Then again I don't think Linux is a priority.

Perhaps it's some plugin you use? I've never had to restart, or have it crash on me.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Updated

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Post by coldtea »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #46
coldtea wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I love this editor and it makes me sad to see how the project is stalled. Stalled? It just had an update. It's also in the 3rd version, under development, which came just a couple of months after the 2nd version had been released. He could just have released ST2 and keep it at that version for 3-4 years. Instead he immediately started development ST3, which had frenetic development in the first months, and has been…

> and has been completely stable for a year or more If this is true, why are the releases still labelled 'dev' releases? How is anyone supposed to know that it's actually a stable release they should be using? Research it on HN comment threads?

>If this is true, why are the releases still labelled 'dev' releases?

Because it's an arbitrary label.

Or because John wants to hook something additional up or polish something before giving it his "3.0" blessing.

Or because it crashes on Linux and needs to fix that too...

But not because there's any issue with it on OS X, at least not for me, and I'm a heavy (8-10 hours per day) user.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Updated

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Post by steveeq1 »

coldtea wrote: post #40
steveeq1 wrote: post #37

I read up on this editor a little bit, but the thing that gets me is: what's wrong with emacs? I don't see anything this editor does that emacs can't do.

It's not what it can't do or how many things more Emacs can do, it's how each goes about them. Not being tied into a BS-pseudo-Lisp runtime is an essential for me. And not having been designed with 1990 display technology in mind too.

I still don't get it. What's wrong with using a lisp as the underlying architecture? This should be an advantage.
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