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Notorious Airbnb squatter may be the dev behind two flailing Kickstarter games

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Surprise they are Russian.

What's up with the stereotype of Russians and online scams?

Pardon, I have not been to Russian but have seen videos of all their vehicular carnage. Those videos make Russia seem like a bunch of narcissists who don't follow the rules of the road.

Is it that different of a culture then say the US?

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Surprise they are Russian. What's up with the stereotype of Russians and online scams? Pardon, I have not been to Russian but have seen videos of all their vehicular carnage. Those videos make Russia seem like a bunch of narcissists who don't follow the rules of the road. Is it that different of a culture then say the US?

Hey i confess I am ignorant here and interested in gaining insight!

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post #40

What we must have is a network that enables a peer-to-peer trust rating for individuals. Sort of like Yelp, but for people. No doubt such a system would be a huge privacy problem for people as people would say that negative reviews reveal their private facts, or that those reviews are defamation. However, if the network is decentralized, then it might be possible to keep it running even in the face of opposition from…

> Rascals and scammers like these failed Kickstarter bros would be shut down after a single scam ... they would not be able to rent or scam another person after a single scam. the guys rans 2 scams on kickstarter. peer-to-peer trust rating networks wont help if a plateform does nothing to prevent scams at first place. that guys shouldnt have been allowed to run a second kickstarter even though he didnt deliver a prod…

Wouldn't matter what Kickstarter allows or doesn't. People would look them up on our hypothetical trust network, and tell them to get lost after seeing that they are shameless.

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post #39

What we must have is a network that enables a peer-to-peer trust rating for individuals. Sort of like Yelp, but for people. No doubt such a system would be a huge privacy problem for people as people would say that negative reviews reveal their private facts, or that those reviews are defamation. However, if the network is decentralized, then it might be possible to keep it running even in the face of opposition from…

something like the Stasi files? http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/stasi-files-revi...

Exactly wrong. Stasi files are held closely by the state.

This network would be public, and everyone would be able to see what the scum are up to.

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#45

There's legal and then there's moral. These scumbags lack basic human tact. I wouldn't ever think of doing something like this to somebody even if I were in the legal side of the law. I hope they get what's coming to them in spades. Airbnb should do everything in their power to help out this poor owner or it will set a dangerous precedent for future hosts.

I'm not sure that it is legal to stay in an apartment after you lease or rental ends. It is just also illegal for the owner to force you out without going through a really complicated and lengthy process.

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#46

What we must have is a network that enables a peer-to-peer trust rating for individuals. Sort of like Yelp, but for people. No doubt such a system would be a huge privacy problem for people as people would say that negative reviews reveal their private facts, or that those reviews are defamation. However, if the network is decentralized, then it might be possible to keep it running even in the face of opposition from…

Until such a system is in place I have a simple hack that has worked well for me - being googlable.

When you use the same name on all social media, have a domain with it, a blog on it, and openly invite people to google you if they feel like it ... and you aren't a complete arsehat, great things happen. Things like finding a place to live in SF become relatively easy, getting jobs/work becomes simpler, hell, even Tinder works better.

We already have the trust networks in place. Why are so few people using them is a better question.

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#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See the previous coverage for the long version, but the tl;dr is that renters that rent for more than 30 days are protected as tenants by California law, including (normally proper) long drawn-out eviction proceedings.

Does that not mean you could live in the house too with a nice guard dog?

No, not if that was not under the original terms of the lease. You may own the building but in the eyes of the law it is the tenant's home and you can't throw them out onto the streets without due process.

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post #19

In some ways, this is the dark side of disrupting established industries: legal protections aren't in place yet; it's not clear what recourse people caught in never before seen corner cases have. We (e.g. HN folks) are quick to applaud people with new ideas that are shaking things up (e.g. Airbnb, Uber, etc.) I suspect this is the sort of scenario detractors (e.g. Seattle City Council re: Uber) are worried about. Ter…

I'm not sure these are "never before seen corner cases". This kind of stuff is pretty much Landlording 101, and it's standard practice for someone engaged in renting a property to know about eviction laws. This person wasn't even engaging in what you might call the new, casual-sharing-of-personal-possessions style of rental, where someone rents their own personal apartment out occasionally while they're on vacation.…

I think you're completely right, but it's worth noting that removing barriers to entry into existing businesses is a very viable business model. Even "buying and reading books customized to your state" is a barrier to entry that a company like AirBnB could help with (though they don't seem to want to go that direction).

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What we must have is a network that enables a peer-to-peer trust rating for individuals. Sort of like Yelp, but for people. No doubt such a system would be a huge privacy problem for people as people would say that negative reviews reveal their private facts, or that those reviews are defamation. However, if the network is decentralized, then it might be possible to keep it running even in the face of opposition from…

That sounds horrific, and basically like a trial by popularity.

Count me out.

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post #19

In some ways, this is the dark side of disrupting established industries: legal protections aren't in place yet; it's not clear what recourse people caught in never before seen corner cases have. We (e.g. HN folks) are quick to applaud people with new ideas that are shaking things up (e.g. Airbnb, Uber, etc.) I suspect this is the sort of scenario detractors (e.g. Seattle City Council re: Uber) are worried about. Ter…

> In some ways, this is the dark side of disrupting established industries: legal protections aren't in place yet... That's simply not true. The homeowner voluntarily agreed to rent her home to someone for more than 30 days. On the 30th day, that person became a tenant and gained certain rights under the law. The homeowner still has legal rights of her own, but the nature of the rental she agreed to means that she wi…

> every serious party engaged in the rental business is familiar with these laws

AirBnB's disruption is to enable unserious parties to engage in the rental business, so the negative effects of unserious parties engaging in the rental business can pretty reasonably be laid at the feet of that disruption.

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