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Re: Sense – Wake up when it's right for you

#42
Those videos have no substance... I realize in marketing that it doesn't ALWAYS make sense to layout all the details but these types of wearable/smart devices have been blowing up and the claims get more and more vague.

I get agitated watching these. I find myself saying "What does it actually do!?" throughout the whole thing. I could completely be missing the boat on this trend but things like this and the weird eyepatch that came up a while ago completely baffle me.

Re: Sense – Wake up when it's right for you

#43

If you're being waken up every day by unnatural means, your body is not getting enough sleep. A few months ago I threw away my alarm clock. Now I just wake up whenever my body wants to. It's been great.

A few years ago I started waking up with the sun. Since then my waking experience has been great, I get a solid 7 every night and my day doesn't start with an abrupt bell. The sun is up, so I'm up.

Re: Sense – Wake up when it's right for you

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Here is an interesting look at whether any of these sorts of devices actually work (in comparison to a real polysonogram): http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-christopher-winter/sleep-ti... . The answer is: most of these things claim to be able to do a lot more with simple sensing techniques than they can actually do accurately.

If your room is too hot, sense will tell you ...in case your skin can't if your room is too bright, sense will tell you ...in case your eyes don't

Can it sense my wife's mood and flash a certain color so I know to make up the couch?

Re: Sense – Wake up when it's right for you

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How is this different/better than Zeo?

Thanks for mentioning the Zeo. I used it for a month a few years ago. It was ahead of its time using 1-wire EEG monitoring. I felt the REM graph was actually telling me something. Any sleep monitor to try and take its place must be EEG based. An accelerometer is inadequate for sleep monitoring.

The closest thing I know of is the OpenBCI.com project (Brain-Computer Interface) which is entirely an EEG project.

Re: Sense – Wake up when it's right for you

#46

If you're being waken up every day by unnatural means, your body is not getting enough sleep. A few months ago I threw away my alarm clock. Now I just wake up whenever my body wants to. It's been great.

That's great if your schedule fits your sleep schedule, but I'm not sure that's very common. A product that can wake you up in time for your schedule and avoid waking you in the middle of a sleep cycle could make it easier to make due with less sleep. At the extreme of little sleep required for newborn overnight feedings, for me, three hours of sleep is significantly worse than two or four. That said, sleep cycles tend to be shorter and shallower as the night goes on, after several hours of continuous sleep, the penalty for waking up at a bad point is not that bad.

Re: Sense – Wake up when it's right for you

#47
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I grabbed a Beddit ( http://www.beddit.com/ ) off Indiegogo, which does something similar. Compared to Fitbit (put something on; remember to start it), apps (remember to start it) and others, I was hoping it would be frictionless -- hop into bed, start collecting metrics. Unfortunately, aside from the long (long) time required to deliver a useful Android app, it's failed me in a few ways. 1. You need the app running…

My Basis band addresses your point 1 quite well; all I have to do is wear it to bed.

Unfortunately, there's no good API (and your choice of three variously lousy ones [1]), and it syncs in the same way as the Beddit does, i.e., via Bluetooth to a phone. (Or via USB to a computer, but that's not much more help.)

I've thought about trying to MITM the data on its way out from the PC to Basis's sync endpoint, in order to see whether I can trap it there instead of having to query it back out of one of Basis's various APIs once it's synced. On the other hand, I've already got > 1 month of data synced, so I'm going to need some method of extracting data from their backend in any case. (But on the third hand, since Intel bought Basis and Basis apparently doesn't bother much with new development any more, I figure it might be handy to have a backend for sync data in case the hardware becomes otherwise useless.)

[1] Two equally undocumented and unstable not-really-supposed-to-be-public APIs, for which various clients exist on Github in various states of disrepair, and a third, also undocumented but probably more stable, API which feeds their web UI..

Re: Sense – Wake up when it's right for you

#48
The body works amazingly well when taken care of and listened too. Really. Instead of hyper tracking every aspect of your life [and making assumptions based on that data] Just exercise, eat well, no caffeine, minimal sugar/food after dark, get 10+min of sun around noon, go to sleep when tired. All of which is almost impossible for 90% of people who are forced into regimented, high stress, excessive work lives.

Re: Sense – Wake up when it's right for you

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I grabbed a Beddit ( http://www.beddit.com/ ) off Indiegogo, which does something similar. Compared to Fitbit (put something on; remember to start it), apps (remember to start it) and others, I was hoping it would be frictionless -- hop into bed, start collecting metrics. Unfortunately, aside from the long (long) time required to deliver a useful Android app, it's failed me in a few ways. 1. You need the app running…

My Basis band addresses your point 1 quite well; all I have to do is wear it to bed. Unfortunately, there's no good API (and your choice of three variously lousy ones [1]), and it syncs in the same way as the Beddit does, i.e., via Bluetooth to a phone. (Or via USB to a computer, but that's not much more help.) I've thought about trying to MITM the data on its way out from the PC to Basis's sync endpoint, in order to…

I got really excited about Basis! It looked to tick a _lot_ of my boxes, but I decided I'd hold out on one until there was a published API. I hadn't checked in in a while; I'm sad to hear it's still missing.

Re: Sense – Wake up when it's right for you

#50

If you're being waken up every day by unnatural means, your body is not getting enough sleep. A few months ago I threw away my alarm clock. Now I just wake up whenever my body wants to. It's been great.

That's great. For you. Now how about the people that have rigid job schedules?
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