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How to Write 225 Words Per Minute With a Pen

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Re: How to Write 225 Words Per Minute With a Pen

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Post by dwd »

sj4nz wrote: post #2

While Gregg shorthand is great for English, its not much use for anything technical. Many of the shorthand idioms are based on the word-sound, not the word-spelling, so it's okay if you're taking notes for yourself, reading someone else's shorthand becomes an exercise in decoding the word in context because you were not there for their experience during note-taking. If you don't stay fresh with your own shorthand, ju…

I always thought journalists were hopeless at reporting precise details, but when you compress your notes using such a lossy technique as this, it's not surprising that the facts can get skewed.

Re: How to Write 225 Words Per Minute With a Pen

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Post by DanBC »

dwd wrote: post #41
sj4nz wrote: post #2

While Gregg shorthand is great for English, its not much use for anything technical. Many of the shorthand idioms are based on the word-sound, not the word-spelling, so it's okay if you're taking notes for yourself, reading someone else's shorthand becomes an exercise in decoding the word in context because you were not there for their experience during note-taking. If you don't stay fresh with your own shorthand, ju…

I always thought journalists were hopeless at reporting precise details, but when you compress your notes using such a lossy technique as this, it's not surprising that the facts can get skewed.

There are different types of shorthand. Some are phonetic; some are spelling based. Journalists should be learning teeline which is spelling based.

Journalists should not be losing details and if they are that's their failure to take correct notes, but not an expected feature of using shorthand.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8356000/8356176....

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teeline_Shorthand

Re: How to Write 225 Words Per Minute With a Pen

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Post by varkson »

malloreon wrote: post #28

I was really hoping this article would end with the author revealing the Livescribe pen could expand Gregg shorthand written with it into standard characters on a computer.

Wait so that wasn't the point of using it? The author mentions custom OCR so I assumed he was using some sort of Gregg OCR solution.

Re: How to Write 225 Words Per Minute With a Pen

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

malloreon wrote: post #28

I was really hoping this article would end with the author revealing the Livescribe pen could expand Gregg shorthand written with it into standard characters on a computer.

It would have to be a author-guided OCR though as the same symbols can represent different words.

Re: How to Write 225 Words Per Minute With a Pen

#46

Post by eru »

doorhammer wrote: post #25
muaddirac wrote: post #23

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It does sound really cool. I just don't get why the shorthand part is important. Why not jot "grandma" and "poodle" and then tap the pen there for when the interviewee starts talking about his grandma and his poodle.

I was thinking about this. The pen sounded like a great way to create a fluid index of there conversation in a really simple outline form. No if it's setup to work like that at all I'd actually really like something similar with a computer while I type and record.

Voice recognition software might be good enough to create the index.

Re: How to Write 225 Words Per Minute With a Pen

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Post by eru »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #45
malloreon wrote: post #28

I was really hoping this article would end with the author revealing the Livescribe pen could expand Gregg shorthand written with it into standard characters on a computer.

It would have to be a author-guided OCR though as the same symbols can represent different words.

You can probably get pretty far with machine learning.

Re: How to Write 225 Words Per Minute With a Pen

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Post by eru »

xrjn wrote: post #35
err4nt wrote: post #31

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I used to have a palm pilot and I LOVED the 'graffiti' input mode with the stylus. You had an alphabet of simplified shapes and it made it very easy to enter something quickly without needing to ‘hunt and peck' on a miniature keyboard for the shift key or using shift keys to change modes. I wondered why nobody brought gesture-based inout to iOS this way. I don't care about 'handwriting recognition' of my own writing,…

I think an excellent input method for mobiles is Swiftkey. It has incredible accuracy, and it learns really fast as to what and how you type. Its intelligence beat all other keyboards that I tried, and I'm able to peak at over 60 WPM using SK with two fingers, and 40 WPM with 1 finger and flow. However, it gets tricky as soon as you get sloppy or start writing technical stuff, so I tend to stick with the traditional…

A friend of mine swears by Swiftkey, too. They seem to have taken a turn for the evil on Android recently, though: still usable as ever, but bugging you every once in a while to try out new themes, or asking for overly broad permissions.

Re: How to Write 225 Words Per Minute With a Pen

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Post by oh_sigh »

GrinningFool wrote: post #34
doorhammer wrote: post #24

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I know a few people who maintain eye contact while typing, for instance, while I'm running a meeting. Man, it always feels creepy to me. Am I the only one that gets that feeling?

To me, it's worse. It sends the message "I'm pretending really hard to focus on what you're saying, but I'm really doing something else right in front of you!" I say this as someone who can maintain eye contact and type while giving attention to the person I'm looking atit. It makes people more uncomfortable than simply looking at the screen while you work and talk.

I'm the same way, and it's not a great skill to have. I've been "called out" a number of times by people who think that I'm not paying attention to them while reading/typing something on my computer, but can in fact usually recite everything they said recently verbatim.

Re: How to Write 225 Words Per Minute With a Pen

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Post by doorhammer »

eru wrote: post #46
doorhammer wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was thinking about this. The pen sounded like a great way to create a fluid index of there conversation in a really simple outline form. No if it's setup to work like that at all I'd actually really like something similar with a computer while I type and record.

Voice recognition software might be good enough to create the index.

Yeah. I think I like the bullet-point associations because I can provide a more abstracted index word and associate it with a point in the conversation, versus having to do a text-search, if that makes sense.

It wouldn't be hard to throw something together, either. Really I just need it to pull a timestamp from the recorded audio after every word I type and associate some meta data and the timestamp with that word location.

Might be a fun after-work project. I'm sure there are already solutions like that out there, though

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