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Re: Let's change the HN title bar to #663399

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Try being a bit less condescending. Just because someone thinks displays like this are hypocritical doesn't mean they are heartless. It could mean they are acutely aware that the only reason people care about this is incidental circumstance, and that equally sad events pass by without scrutiny because it didn't happen to someone who's milked it out for attention. Because that's what blogging about your daughter's can…

Either he's feigning ignorance over why anybody would be the slightest bit empathetic toward the death of Eric Meyer's daughter or he's too much of a robot to actually understand. You can make an argument that HN must be 100 percent on-topic, at all times, and that it doesn't belong here. But you can also argue that we are all humans and we can just accept it once in a while, even here. To jump to the conclusion that…

>Either he's feigning ignorance over why anybody would be the slightest bit empathetic toward the death of Eric Meyer's daughter or he's too much of a robot to actually understand. Nah. This kind of human behavior isn't the least bit surprising to me. My questions thereof were more so rhetorical; I mean to draw attention to what I feel is the absurdity of this behavior. People do things contrary to reason, sometimes even in spite of it. Birds go tweet tweet.

>To jump to the conclusion that it's all just for show, and nobody will actually take any sort of real action is pure cynicism. This is the conclusion to which you have jumped, not I. I fail to see where I even implied anything of this sort.

I don't believe that people are doing this as an empty gesture without any feeling behind it, at least not universally. I do, however, think that it's ridiculous.

For me, perhaps it's not the sorrow, or the condolences, that I find to be most ridiculous. On the contrary, it's these things prepackaged into something of a meme that I find to be most alarming and highly artificial.

Foremost, the hashtag #663399becca is a hideous contrivance and shits all over the poor girl's name. I guess #rebeccameyers would have been too pedestrian. I question, why purple at all? Most people have favorite colors (the blog post argues otherwise). Why make this the focal point? Why would you summarize or even emblematize her existence with her favorite color, of all things? First person to answer along the lines of "because CSS" should get metaphorically smacked upside the head.

It reminds me of when the students at my younger brother's high school collectively wore hoodies in "solidarity" regarding the death of Trayvon Martin. To me, this whole #663399becca is the same brand of stupidity. It's essentially wearing a digital t-shirt that proclaims "HEY EVERYONE, I'M MOURNING THE UNTIMELY LOSS OF REBECCA MEYERS." How about you? Oh, I see you have on the purple t-shirt on, and your accessible uniformity brings me comfort.

The whole thing is cheap and mass-produced like a Wendy's value meal. It's a 9/11 bumper sticker. It's a Che Guevara t-shirt.

It's a gimmick, and it actually does a disservice to her memory, because now it's not really about her, it's about the color purple and your hexcode-hashtag and your purple avatar and maybe we should make the header of this website purple. The name of the blog post is "The Color Purple".

I fully understand that people are sooner moved by tragedies "near" to them more than the comparatively distant deaths of countless people. Nothing is surprising about that. But how about these people be about it rather than wear it?

It's ironic, the desire to make the hashtag a trending topic on Twitter, because the very nature of trends is that they're transient, which are exactly the things that death and loss are not.

So I see my colleagues hop on this bandwagon and I think, yeah, go ahead and wear your purple avatar for a day, or two days, or a week. Eventually you will change your avatar to something "normal". In fact, after an arbitrary amount of time, that purple avatar will be passé and everyone will have moved on to newer gimmicks.

And yet I'm allegedly the robot here? Do robots typically question their programming or try to see past their own bullshit? One commenter even described me as "disgusting", but if anything that's precisely what I seek to not be.

Re: Let's change the HN title bar to #663399

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For those that don't know, Eric Meyer is an extremely influential programmer, who dedicated a ton of time to improving CSS. Right now my laptop's resting on one of his books. He is as _why was to ruby or dmr was to C. Half of the CSS I've ever written wouldn't work without his contributions.

I'm in favor of changing the title bar color temporarily.

Re: Let's change the HN title bar to #663399

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post #36

And I can't help but wonder why this gets support but I am routinely downvoted and generally crapped for attempting to talk about what I have done to beat my medical death sentence. It is not intended to piss on this effort. I just honestly do not understand this. If you have genuine concern for other people, why say nice things only after they are dead? Why be so awful to the living? Why shout down someone trying to…

Please, leave. This is not the appropriate forum for your rant. Start a new thread if you want to have this discussion.

Re: Let's change the HN title bar to #663399

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post #30

I feel like I'm missing something here. A very young girl died of cancer. That's pretty sad, but I fail to see how it's anymore sad than the hundreds/thousands of people who die of cancer every day. Millions of people will have died of cancer by the end of this year. So we have all these people tweeting this hashtag and coloring their Twitter avatar purple, because Rebecca's favorite color was purple (no non-sequitur…

I am a bit confused about your post. How old are you? How have you managed to live without learning that people do stuff like this - they wear little coloured ribbons or wristbands or etc. when someone dies people will talk about how clever / nice / awesome etc (even if they weren't). While I agree with you (I don't know him; I didn't know her; I don't care that she's dead; I see zero point in concentrating more on h…

It is quite arbitrary to mourn someone you don't know who was a relative of someone else you don't know.

However I am inclined to agree, just let it go, if people want to mourn let them mourn, even if it just bandwagon jumping. If you asked Nietzsche, he would probably say they are just mourning their own mortality, ie there is no such thing as a selfless act, they are just doing to feel good about themselves.

And surely it won't be as bad as the Steve Jobs fiasco.

Re: Let's change the HN title bar to #663399

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post #31

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A year from now the people who turned their avatars purple today won't remember the hash tag or what it was for. This isn't about one kid dying, or many kids dying. It's about a bunch of people frantically acting to hide their sense of impotence.

I disagree. Eric Meyer has been writing about Rebecca's cancer since they found out on their vacation last summer, and many have been following. This isn't something that just happened today. It's been happening for nearly a year. The thoughts it raises, particularly for parents, are not the kind that can just be dismissed once the hashtag stops trending.

It was actually counterproductive to leave out the context of this guy developing CSS and a link to whatever blog documented the cancer's story. The given explanation was simply adults don't have favorite colors, children do. You're perfectly welcome to have fewer people interested and make the whole thing seem like a pretentious non-sequitur to 99.99% of the world's population, but I guess you didn't think Rebecca deserved better and were simply being incompetent.

Re: Let's change the HN title bar to #663399

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post #36

And I can't help but wonder why this gets support but I am routinely downvoted and generally crapped for attempting to talk about what I have done to beat my medical death sentence. It is not intended to piss on this effort. I just honestly do not understand this. If you have genuine concern for other people, why say nice things only after they are dead? Why be so awful to the living? Why shout down someone trying to…

Please, leave. This is not the appropriate forum for your rant. Start a new thread if you want to have this discussion.

It is not a rant and your ugly reply and the downvote my above comment got is just proving my point. I have no reason to believe that starting a new thread would be constructive. In fact, I have every reason to believe the response to that would be far uglier than the response to the above remark.

Re: Let's change the HN title bar to #663399

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post #36

And I can't help but wonder why this gets support but I am routinely downvoted and generally crapped for attempting to talk about what I have done to beat my medical death sentence. It is not intended to piss on this effort. I just honestly do not understand this. If you have genuine concern for other people, why say nice things only after they are dead? Why be so awful to the living? Why shout down someone trying to…

"And I can't help but wonder why this gets support but I am routinely downvoted and generally crapped for attempting to talk about what I have done to beat my medical death sentence"

Since you're being so rude here, I will note that it is probably because you are an unreliable narrator who "cures" herself with blogsourced finds and people have little need for advice that is not based in reality. You post about being shunned by multiple CF communities, I would be willing to guess that it is not because they are afraid of any stunning discoveries you have made.

Re: Let's change the HN title bar to #663399

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post #36

And I can't help but wonder why this gets support but I am routinely downvoted and generally crapped for attempting to talk about what I have done to beat my medical death sentence. It is not intended to piss on this effort. I just honestly do not understand this. If you have genuine concern for other people, why say nice things only after they are dead? Why be so awful to the living? Why shout down someone trying to…

"And I can't help but wonder why this gets support but I am routinely downvoted and generally crapped for attempting to talk about what I have done to beat my medical death sentence" Since you're being so rude here, I will note that it is probably because you are an unreliable narrator who "cures" herself with blogsourced finds and people have little need for advice that is not based in reality. You post about being…

Personal attacks are not allowed on HN, regardless of how strongly you disagree with someone.

It's true that the GP's complaints about downvotes also break the HN guidelines, but being mean is much worse. Please don't.

Re: Let's change the HN title bar to #663399

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"And I can't help but wonder why this gets support but I am routinely downvoted and generally crapped for attempting to talk about what I have done to beat my medical death sentence" Since you're being so rude here, I will note that it is probably because you are an unreliable narrator who "cures" herself with blogsourced finds and people have little need for advice that is not based in reality. You post about being…

Personal attacks are not allowed on HN, regardless of how strongly you disagree with someone. It's true that the GP's complaints about downvotes also break the HN guidelines, but being mean is much worse. Please don't.

You're right. The insincere "wondering why" shouldn't have baited my response.
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