"Can be turned off at any time" means "will never be turned off by 99.99% of our users".
I propose "surveillance creep" as a label for the concern. Cf. "feature creep."
Facebook wants to 'listen' to your music and TV
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Re: Facebook wants to 'listen' to your music and TV
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with side loading and permission over reach a non-jailbroken iPhone You don't think it's a little unfair to compare a sideloaded (thus, compromised) Android phone with a non-compromised, non-jailbroken iPhone?
Side-loading and non-jailbroken are the defaults. Google is warning everyone to only download from the Play Store but few pay attention and everyone wants something for free.
Yes because clearly no major company would want to spy on you through its official app...
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Unless your fear is that Facebook wants to record your conversations on the sly, then yes, that is a completely insane thing to be worried about, and I'd ask for proof. Facebook doing what Shazam does doesn't somehow make it more skeevy.
Or, you know, just track everything you do by listening, building up ever more details on you. >> Facebook doing what Shazam does doesn't somehow make it more skeevy. Of course it does.
I'm sure Shazam and SoundHound just throw away all that useful metadata too...
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
with side loading and permission over reach a non-jailbroken iPhone You don't think it's a little unfair to compare a sideloaded (thus, compromised) Android phone with a non-compromised, non-jailbroken iPhone?
Side-loading and non-jailbroken are the defaults. Google is warning everyone to only download from the Play Store but few pay attention and everyone wants something for free.
Every android phone I've owned has required me to check a box hidden in the settings before I could install from outwith the Play store. My current phone gives me an additional pop-up warning that this is a security risk which I have to agree to before it will enable side-loading.
Ultimately you can't completely protect users from their own stupidity. You have to make the security vs usability tradeoff somewhere. I appreciate that my phone allows me to manually install applications - it is in fact one of the reasons I chose it.
Re: Facebook wants to 'listen' to your music and TV
#45This app requires the following permissions: read you thoughts.
Re: Facebook wants to 'listen' to your music and TV
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or, you know, just track everything you do by listening, building up ever more details on you. >> Facebook doing what Shazam does doesn't somehow make it more skeevy. Of course it does.
I'm sure Shazam and SoundHound just throw away all that useful metadata too...
I'm sure they don't.
On the other hand they are not in a position to combine it with a truckload of your (partially at least) most intimate data, sucked up with all their other data gathering ventures.
For what it's worth: I'm putting my money where my mouth is and "deleted" my Facebook account years ago.
Re: Facebook wants to 'listen' to your music and TV
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
with side loading and permission over reach a non-jailbroken iPhone You don't think it's a little unfair to compare a sideloaded (thus, compromised) Android phone with a non-compromised, non-jailbroken iPhone?
Jailbroken and sideloaded APKs do not equate to "compromised".
They do not equate to it, but they can cause it. In the example the OP was giving the phone would have been compromised by a side-loaded app. Quite possible.