Almost incredible. An extract (translated to English): "no hyperlink TO [our site] can be done without prior agreement". I hope they're suing Google too :)
http://leboncoin.fr
I did it! and they said I couldn't..
So, leboncoin.fr doesn't like my email alert webapp
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Re: So, leboncoin.fr doesn't like my email alert webapp
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm ashamed to be french when I see this kind of horse shit. The internet is not compatible with their TOS.
Why are all the French so ashamed to be French all the time? I've seen Frenchmen ashamed to be French when a Le Pen won something somewhere. I've seen Frenchmen ashamed to be French when an anti piracy group pirates a logo. I've seen Frenchmen ashamed to be French when some president felt the need to compensate for something by blowing up a nuclear bomb in the pacific. Somehow, anecdotally, being ashamed to be born s…
This is not a French phenomenon. There is a difference between political affairs, such as extreme rights winning elections and a nuclear bomb explosion, than your neighbor being an asshole. Being ashamed of something means people you consider in the same group as you do things you find not acceptable (it could be a country, as it's the case here, but also a community, a football team or whatever). In fact, being ashamed shows you'd prefer this entity to react differently to make you and the group you're considering better.
Yes, we should be ashamed when someone does something wrong. In fact, we shouldn't be ashamed to be ashamed of some dumb decision. Being ashamed doesn't mean we are not doing anything else about it. You've seen Frenchmen being ashamed to be French, and that's OK. It means they're not thinking their country is the best, but they can also learn from their mistakes. And I am proud of this, as a French person, too, though I am ashamed of LeBonCoin's strategy.
Re: So, leboncoin.fr doesn't like my email alert webapp
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm ashamed to be french when I see this kind of horse shit. The internet is not compatible with their TOS.
Why are all the French so ashamed to be French all the time? I've seen Frenchmen ashamed to be French when a Le Pen won something somewhere. I've seen Frenchmen ashamed to be French when an anti piracy group pirates a logo. I've seen Frenchmen ashamed to be French when some president felt the need to compensate for something by blowing up a nuclear bomb in the pacific. Somehow, anecdotally, being ashamed to be born s…
Because we were once a great nation, so we have high expectations about how we are perceived in the world.
I agree there's nothing to be ashamed here, especially as leboncoin position is quite understandable (and their tone not that menacing).
Re: So, leboncoin.fr doesn't like my email alert webapp
#44Next time build a browser extension or a mobile app.
This way the traffic comes from all your users, not one single IP address and you have a better chance to stay off the radar.
Re: So, leboncoin.fr doesn't like my email alert webapp
#45to sum up the author of the news and recipient of the mail cannot read french correctly. It is a cease and desist letter on the use of a name «lebonXXX.fr» that in all due respect seem is a clear parasitism of a registred brand: it bears a similar name, it is related to the activity of the original site. And le boncoin.fr is registered @ l'INPI (national registration office of brands). In PI law, the infringement is…
Hi Julie,
I do not claim anything, nor do I victimize myself, I just stated the obvious namely that leboncoin.fr dosen't like my webapp. The letter is theirs.
It might be possible to register a domain with INPI but not a wildcard like lebonXXX.fr
You might be right though, which is why I complied and removed all mention of their brand name and any functionality related to it from my site as soon as I received their letter.
Re: So, leboncoin.fr doesn't like my email alert webapp
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm ashamed to be french when I see this kind of horse shit. The internet is not compatible with their TOS.
Why are all the French so ashamed to be French all the time? I've seen Frenchmen ashamed to be French when a Le Pen won something somewhere. I've seen Frenchmen ashamed to be French when an anti piracy group pirates a logo. I've seen Frenchmen ashamed to be French when some president felt the need to compensate for something by blowing up a nuclear bomb in the pacific. Somehow, anecdotally, being ashamed to be born s…
Americans are ashamed of being American, Australians are ashamed of being Australian, the French are ashamed of being French.
It's a pretty common thing across every culture where people attribute the bad things that happen around them to the geography or culture when in reality, there are crappy drivers all over the world.
Re: So, leboncoin.fr doesn't like my email alert webapp
#47Leboncoin is so badly made it's a joke, and they completely monopolize the market. I'm raging just thinking I'm gonna have to use it to look for an apartment and sell my furniture in Bordeaux those next months. Makes me want to build a competition.
This is a challenge I would gladly undertake with you if you have a plan. I'm from Bordeaux too btw ;)
That being said I wrote my own scraper & mail notifier for the same site to find an appartment about 1 year ago (it was june too) and it proved very valuable. I was notified on my mobile right when ads went online and was always first to call. I quickly found a nice place, affordable, direct to the owner and without all the paper hurdles. The code was in python and one of my friends may still have it around if you're interested.
Re: So, leboncoin.fr doesn't like my email alert webapp
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Use proxies.
That's a bad idea - doing that shows intent to circumvent an intended block. See the last notable case "Craigslist v. 3Taps": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Fraud_and_Abuse_Act#No...
I'm not sure if this is applicable to French/European law.
Nevertheless: If somebody doesn't want you to scrape, don't do it.
Re: So, leboncoin.fr doesn't like my email alert webapp
#49Scraping is clearly covered by robots.txt, one of the earliest conventions on the web. In their case (http://www.leboncoin.fr/robots.txt) they allow the spiders from most commercial search engine, but disallow all others.
I think it's a terrible idea from Schibsted (the Norwegian owners of the company) to react like this; but then again, lawyers...
Re: So, leboncoin.fr doesn't like my email alert webapp
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
For those who don't read French and don't wish to investigate too much, "leboncoin" (le bon coin) roughly means "the good neighborhood/hangout" (and literally means "the good corner") in French.
For "the good corner" they don't play very nice do they?
Think of it as a corner in "The Wire". They are just defending their turf ;)