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I “Leaked” the story about the Biometric EarPods. But I’m not proud of it

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Re: I “Leaked” the story about the Biometric EarPods. But I’m not proud of it

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if it did manage to get somebody at Apple in trouble, the fault lies entirely with Apple laying down false accusations with insufficient evidence, not with the guy who made a lucky guess and didn't even do it intentionally.

Yes, but Apple's actual shitty behaviour or this hypothetical shitty behaviour might stop someone putting food on the table. If someone loses their job over this, the fact it's just Apple being arseholes won't be of much comfort to the newly unemployed (unless it's a lucrative wrongful dismissal suit I guess.) Does anyone have any confidence in Apple doing the right thing by its employees or indeed customers?

I don't mean to imply that Apple wouldn't do it. Just saying that if we're assigning blame, that's where it should go.

As for putting food on the table, in general I'd agree, but do ex-Apple employees in SV really have trouble finding new jobs?

Re: I “Leaked” the story about the Biometric EarPods. But I’m not proud of it

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It's not the OP's fault, it's lack of integrity in the press. You start by propagating a rumor on some insignificant source like Secret, then a blogger picks it up. The blogger gets noticed by people on Twitter, who catch the attention of some small news source. Bigger newspapers notice that the story is blossoming in the lower echelons and they pick it up. Suddenly, something which carries zero truth has become fact…

> "lack of integrity in the press"

> "macRUMORS.com"

Re: I “Leaked” the story about the Biometric EarPods. But I’m not proud of it

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post #37
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if it did manage to get somebody at Apple in trouble, the fault lies entirely with Apple laying down false accusations with insufficient evidence, not with the guy who made a lucky guess and didn't even do it intentionally.

Yes, but Apple's actual shitty behaviour or this hypothetical shitty behaviour might stop someone putting food on the table. If someone loses their job over this, the fact it's just Apple being arseholes won't be of much comfort to the newly unemployed (unless it's a lucrative wrongful dismissal suit I guess.) Does anyone have any confidence in Apple doing the right thing by its employees or indeed customers?

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Re: I “Leaked” the story about the Biometric EarPods. But I’m not proud of it

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post #30

It's not the OP's fault, it's lack of integrity in the press. You start by propagating a rumor on some insignificant source like Secret, then a blogger picks it up. The blogger gets noticed by people on Twitter, who catch the attention of some small news source. Bigger newspapers notice that the story is blossoming in the lower echelons and they pick it up. Suddenly, something which carries zero truth has become fact…

> "lack of integrity in the press" > "macRUMORS.com"

I enjoy reading macRUMORS.com. The name says it all, it's interesting to see what people think will happen but I don't rely on anything I see on the site. I would hope this is how all of their readers act.

Re: I “Leaked” the story about the Biometric EarPods. But I’m not proud of it

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post #41
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but Apple's actual shitty behaviour or this hypothetical shitty behaviour might stop someone putting food on the table. If someone loses their job over this, the fact it's just Apple being arseholes won't be of much comfort to the newly unemployed (unless it's a lucrative wrongful dismissal suit I guess.) Does anyone have any confidence in Apple doing the right thing by its employees or indeed customers?

I don't mean to imply that Apple wouldn't do it. Just saying that if we're assigning blame, that's where it should go. As for putting food on the table, in general I'd agree, but do ex-Apple employees in SV really have trouble finding new jobs?

They do if they want to work for Google, Adobe, Intel...

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/25/technology/settlement-sili...

http://pando.com/2014/03/27/how-steve-jobs-forced-google-to-...

Re: I “Leaked” the story about the Biometric EarPods. But I’m not proud of it

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There's really no need to apologize for this in my opinion. If people decide to trust a complete non-source that's their problem. It's actually a fascinating demonstration of the dynamics of these rumors.

It's like the digital equivalent of the butterfly effect. A few strings of text pushed into the ether causes a big shift in market forces... pretty nuts, and really shows that the Internet has the power to act as an equalizer (harnessing that is a different matter).

Re: I “Leaked” the story about the Biometric EarPods. But I’m not proud of it

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post #30

It's not the OP's fault, it's lack of integrity in the press. You start by propagating a rumor on some insignificant source like Secret, then a blogger picks it up. The blogger gets noticed by people on Twitter, who catch the attention of some small news source. Bigger newspapers notice that the story is blossoming in the lower echelons and they pick it up. Suddenly, something which carries zero truth has become fact…

> "lack of integrity in the press" > "macRUMORS.com"

Reporting on rumors doesn't preclude journalistic integrity.

Re: I “Leaked” the story about the Biometric EarPods. But I’m not proud of it

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I think people have become numb to "Apple leaks" given the volume.

For a while the Yahoo homepage had a Kardashian article EVERY SINGLE DAY. Now, it seems that iPhone 6 "news" is in the same situation on the site. Correlate from that what you will.

Re: I “Leaked” the story about the Biometric EarPods. But I’m not proud of it

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "lack of integrity in the press" > "macRUMORS.com"

I enjoy reading macRUMORS.com. The name says it all, it's interesting to see what people think will happen but I don't rely on anything I see on the site. I would hope this is how all of their readers act.

I think this highlights something I've thought about recently.

I've realized reading the "news" is a skill. Particularly, HN. As a reader, you need to be able to quickly differentiate what matters and what doesn't; what's bias and what's not, what has actual substance and what doesn't; and what the stories mean in the grand scheme. Also, and most importantly, you have to be able to move on.

It's so easy to get distracted and sucked into the k-hole of news. News should educate and inform your worldview. But remember there's plenty of unsubstantiated ruminations and pointless, heavily-biased garbage out there.

Modern civilization is extremely complex; so much so that even seemingly cut-and-dry news stories are simply beyond full comprehension and understanding of what actually is going on.

My reading strategy for news is to allow a particular story to be substantiated by more than a few known trusted sources, but, again, to remember that it's just a distant narrative and to move on.

The Ukraine situation is a great example. I'm not from the Ukraine and don't know many Ukrainians so for me it's just another news story. It brings up interesting geopolitical, human rights and economic problems but for me it's still a distant narrative. I have friends who are in the same position as me, but seem to believe it's the beginning of WWIII; again, flying down the news k-hole.

Or the ferry disaster in South Korea. Or the Malaysian flight disaster. All sad but intriguing(they both raise questions such as: how could these happen? why did the leadership respond they way they did?), but one can only speculate on the implications what these stories mean beyond them being tragedies.

People will write speculations about these events; I can't let someone's speculation or assumptions to run wild within my mind because it's just not news. Again, it's important to differentiate real news from everything else.

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