Nice. I'm glad their splitting these apps out, because I'll be able to ignore them as I always did.
Why Facebook Can’t Figure Out What to Do With Its Apps
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Re: Why Facebook Can’t Figure Out What to Do With Its Apps
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
MySpace lost because it lost war to spam. Majority of regular users were just fed up with freaking spam. Tens of comments, invites, messages mass sent from some unknown wannabes. Facebook offered more closed approach - focusing on real life friends and trying to tackle the spam. Remember having 500 friends on MySpace? How many of them have you EVER seen in real life? 10-20% ?
It was also getting really tedious and laggy, and there were lots of fake profiles. I used both MySpace (I played in a band) and Facebook in 2007, for seemingly different reasons and different groups of friends... but eventually everyone moved to Facebook and MySpace got really vacant.
> and there were lots of fake profiles
FYI, this is a feature, not a bug. One of MySpace's early differentiators was that it allowed fake profiles, unlike Friendster.
Another differentiator was the extreme level of customization available, which as you note, resulted in a lot of lag because most people do not even realize that could be an issue.
Re: Why Facebook Can’t Figure Out What to Do With Its Apps
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I feel like hosting events is trivial. It's finding the events that is difficult. It's trivial to get a stripped down ticketing system going, it's much harder to get people to see those events. I'm surprised there's still not a Google for events.
> I'm surprised there's still not a Google for events. Absolutely. What's going on in Berlin next weekend? To answer that question depending on my interests, I need to check half a dozen different sites, none of them very good or filterable in useful ways. I want to do more fun and interesting stuff, you want to promote your event. It seems like an obvious opportunity for anyone who can at least improve upon the clun…
I've been mulling over this idea for a while now and actually have implemented a prototype. The current roadblock I run into, as someone said earlier in the thread, is the data sources. I've implemented a crawler that pulls from roughly 10 different sites, but clearly the custom crawling doesn't scale: there are just too many websites out there, and I don't have access to the crawling infrastructure of the Google/Bing size (both machine power and development effort).
I am thinking of making my prototype more human involved. For example, users (like you) could list the sites they often check for events, and maybe give the system some cue on how to extract the events from those sites. Another approach is MTurk which is something I'll try next.
Re: Why Facebook Can’t Figure Out What to Do With Its Apps
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I had no idea they'd managed to make that work for iOS, that's awesome. Definitely agree, FB chat bubbles for Android are one of the best user experiences I've seen.
AFAIK, on iOS it only works within Facebook's apps. Pretty lame experience compared to the Android version.
Oh wow, it never occurred to me that it would be Android only. iOS users are REALLY missing out. It's the best mobile chat experience I've ever had.
Re: Why Facebook Can’t Figure Out What to Do With Its Apps
#45On the contrary, I think this is about FaceBook knowing exactly what the future holds. - FB probably recognizes that a Social Network is at its core a directory of connections and the ability to message/talk to each other. Until now it took a backseat to over-shared content, when it should have been the other way round. - This app could serve as the foundation for the next FaceBook. Once you strip down an app to its…
It just goes to show how inflexible Facebook is. In a flexible system, it would be trivial to create a custom feed out of other feeds. Yahoo Pipes and Google Reader both did this.
Re: Why Facebook Can’t Figure Out What to Do With Its Apps
#46It seems like there are three obvious divisions of the Facebook product: - Chat - Shared content (news feed/photos/etc) - Events I wonder what the world looks like in which each is treated as a separate product with a common login. I imagine that the size of the user base goes up, but total usage could go down. I know many people who don't have Facebook because they don't like the constant distraction of its shared c…
I think a startup focussing on only events and doing them well could have some potential.
Here is the information you requested, part the infinity:
http://unicornfree.com/2014/fuck-innovation-take-2-the-obvio...
Re: Why Facebook Can’t Figure Out What to Do With Its Apps
#47On the contrary, I think this is about FaceBook knowing exactly what the future holds. - FB probably recognizes that a Social Network is at its core a directory of connections and the ability to message/talk to each other. Until now it took a backseat to over-shared content, when it should have been the other way round. - This app could serve as the foundation for the next FaceBook. Once you strip down an app to its…
This has existed for several years in the form of the Close Friends list.
Re: Why Facebook Can’t Figure Out What to Do With Its Apps
#48Man, why the heck are they trying to split everything off into their own apps? If I am using the main app to browse my feed and I get a message, why the heck do I want to swap to another app to answer it?
You don't. Just like when you're browsing HN and you get a message you don't want to swap to another app to answer it. That's why the separated Facebook chat app uses message bubbles that you can answer in any app: http://cdn.cultofmac.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Screen-S... Honestly, it's brilliant, and the sole reason I use Facebook chat for most of my communications.
I have that in my current facebook but I do not use the messenger app at all or have it installed.
Re: Why Facebook Can’t Figure Out What to Do With Its Apps
#49On the contrary, I think this is about FaceBook knowing exactly what the future holds. - FB probably recognizes that a Social Network is at its core a directory of connections and the ability to message/talk to each other. Until now it took a backseat to over-shared content, when it should have been the other way round. - This app could serve as the foundation for the next FaceBook. Once you strip down an app to its…
It just goes to show how inflexible Facebook is. In a flexible system, it would be trivial to create a custom feed out of other feeds. Yahoo Pipes and Google Reader both did this.
Not really. You've been able to create lists of select friends for at least a couple years.
Re: Why Facebook Can’t Figure Out What to Do With Its Apps
#50It seems like there are three obvious divisions of the Facebook product: - Chat - Shared content (news feed/photos/etc) - Events I wonder what the world looks like in which each is treated as a separate product with a common login. I imagine that the size of the user base goes up, but total usage could go down. I know many people who don't have Facebook because they don't like the constant distraction of its shared c…
I think a startup focussing on only events and doing them well could have some potential.
Why?
Everyone I know has Facebook and uses it frequently. No one I know uses email unless absolutely necessary. No one I know is interested in recreating identities and friendship mappings across a bunch of discrete apps.