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Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

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Can anyone comment on the difference between the PC and the Mac 64 bit images?

amd64 images use BIOS or UEFI. Macs use a variant of EFI (an earlier version of what's now called UEFI), they apparently can't cope with multi-catalog CDs and the MAC variant images fix this.

See: http://askubuntu.com/a/40480/117820

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

#44

Ubuntu 14.04 comes with Python 3.4, but unfortunately, it doesn't bundle the ensurepip module (and a host of others). By the looks of things, the idea was to use Ubuntu's own packages instead[1], but it didn't make it in time. This means that pip being bundled by default—one of Python 3.4 coolest features—is missing. Trying to create a virtualenv using the bundled virtualenv module fails as well. Big mess.[2] [1] htt…

This is a real shame. Python 3.4 and bundled pip support was high on my list of reasons of why I should upgrade to 14.04 sooner rather than later. I think I'll wait now until this is smoothed out.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

#45
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Does Ubuntu still shill out personal data to Amazon?

Not all monetisation is "Shilling", floor_. If people could stop being so paranoid about nothing (the data is anonimised before sent for goodness' sake) then technology can advance much easier and quicker.

What does sending your local search terms to Canonical and Amazon do to advance technology, exactly? All these desperate attempts at monetization off users' privacy are disgusting, and it's sad to see companies big and small stoop to that level.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not all monetisation is "Shilling", floor_. If people could stop being so paranoid about nothing (the data is anonimised before sent for goodness' sake) then technology can advance much easier and quicker.

What does sending your local search terms to Canonical and Amazon do to advance technology, exactly? All these desperate attempts at monetization off users' privacy are disgusting, and it's sad to see companies big and small stoop to that level.

Local search terms aren't sent to the web, the Dash is a search box for local and remote sources (it tells you in the description before you type anything in there. The point is for you to be able to search everything in one spot. So you can do `github:docker`, or `wiki:dinosaurs` or whatever.

You can either explicitly search locally by using Super-A, or turn off online search in the dash entirely via the privacy panel.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

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post #43
post #41

Can anyone comment on the difference between the PC and the Mac 64 bit images?

amd64 images use BIOS or UEFI. Macs use a variant of EFI (an earlier version of what's now called UEFI), they apparently can't cope with multi-catalog CDs and the MAC variant images fix this. See: http://askubuntu.com/a/40480/117820

Can anyone talk about how well a Macbook Pro copes with the UEFI version of Ubuntu?

Fedora 20 on a 2009 13" MBP is an unfun experience. Using the UEFI boot means you get broken graphics drivers. Using the regular boot means you have to hold boot to get the image boot menu every time you power on. (I think - I could easily be wrong). You have to make sure the disk is blessed otherwise there's a large boot delay. (Fedora 20 doesn't use the right Broadcom drivers which means some interesti g catch22 about needing to connect to the internet to get WIFI drivers but not being able to because lol no drivers.)

I don't want to rant about Fedora when most of this is my lack of knowledge. But the combination of Gnome3 and this kind of fiddling around was odd and reminded me of a much older install experience. (Having said all that, Fedora 20 is nice and does have some really nice features.)

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

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post #8

Does Ubuntu still shill out personal data to Amazon?

Not all monetisation is "Shilling", floor_. If people could stop being so paranoid about nothing (the data is anonimised before sent for goodness' sake) then technology can advance much easier and quicker.

It is weird to see the total difference between privacy today (you have none and you have no expectation of any and anyone who has your data will do what they like with it) and what was happening in the early 2000s.

I get that companies feel the need to extract usable data to help fix problems (a sensible data dump is much more useful than a customer filling in a form with wierd information); or to sell anonymosed information.

But customers are right to be untrusting. Some companies have shown that they are not competant to keep data secure. Some companies have shown that they do not care about privacy.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

#49

Ubuntu 14.04 comes with Python 3.4, but unfortunately, it doesn't bundle the ensurepip module (and a host of others). By the looks of things, the idea was to use Ubuntu's own packages instead[1], but it didn't make it in time. This means that pip being bundled by default—one of Python 3.4 coolest features—is missing. Trying to create a virtualenv using the bundled virtualenv module fails as well. Big mess.[2] [1] htt…

How did they ship this? It's clearly an unfinished release.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

#50

Its great to see another LTS. Finally time to update 12.04 version.

Might want to wait until the first 'delta' (14.04.1) round June if you are happy with 12.04 for a few more months and your machines are used in production. Rough edges smoothed &c

If it is just a personal machine, have at it, I was using the Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 beta for some weeks with no major issues.

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