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Dear Web Developers: EFF Needs Your Help

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Re: Dear Web Developers: EFF Needs Your Help

#42

Disclosure: Only bother if you are American. Next time you ask, make sure you specify who you are serving. Congress does not serve me as a foreigner (then again, does it serve everyday Americans either?). New title: "Dear US Web Developers: EFF Needs Your Help"

1. US laws can have a huge impact on foreigners, especially if they are Internet-related

2. you can help a good cause without directly profiting from it

Re: Dear Web Developers: EFF Needs Your Help

#43

Disclosure: Only bother if you are American. Next time you ask, make sure you specify who you are serving. Congress does not serve me as a foreigner (then again, does it serve everyday Americans either?). New title: "Dear US Web Developers: EFF Needs Your Help"

Why should the EFF discourage assistance from Non-US citizens?

AFAICS, this is all about accessing and describing publicly available web forms. You don't need to be US citizen to do that.

Re: Dear Web Developers: EFF Needs Your Help

#44

I know this is all in good spirit and you just want to show some appreciation for the help. But rewarding programmers by number of commits is a bit perverse. Nowadays everyone generally agrees that paying programmers per line of code is a bad idea. I think rewarding based on number of commits creates very similar unwanted incentives and should probably be avoided completely.

We could also do PRs accepted, or issues closed, or other things a little less squishy than commits. But either way - it'll probably be fine.

Re: Dear Web Developers: EFF Needs Your Help

#45

Disclosure: Only bother if you are American. Next time you ask, make sure you specify who you are serving. Congress does not serve me as a foreigner (then again, does it serve everyday Americans either?). New title: "Dear US Web Developers: EFF Needs Your Help"

I'm a canadian student and I give money to the EEF each month because they're one of the strongest defendant of the web out there. I don't care if they're focused in the US; I care they're there to protect us.

Re: Dear Web Developers: EFF Needs Your Help

#46

I was pretty surprised to see the EFF's naive take on the Tea Party [1] in "recent deeplinks" underneath the linked article, which seems not to recognize it as pretty much an astroturf instrument of the neo-bircher Kochs [2], [3]. Of course co-opting TP sympathizers around a common goal of opposing overweening government surveillance to unknown purpose is a Good Thing, but unless the EFF, an org I've respected for ag…

How is this even vaguely relevant to this submission? Argue with their attempts to appeal across the bases somewhere else. Write a blog post. Raise awareness if you're so incensed. Don't attempt to hijack this thread.

I think it's worthwhile to discuss. Out of the blue, they're suddenly promoting a political party at the same time that they're asking for technical assistance. That can definitely influence one's decision to offer said assistance.

If you want to move the discussion elsewhere, I opened a separate thread when I first saw this last night:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7596182

Re: Dear Web Developers: EFF Needs Your Help

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"You should be comfortable using Github, having basic programming proficiency in at least one language and have a reasonable grasp of HTML and Javascript. Experience collaborating via IRC is handy, but not critical." So... very technical?

Is that called "very technical" nowadays? Basic proficiency in a random programming language and some grasp of HTML is something that's taught in a high school computer class or any introductory course for a tangentially related college program such as statistics or physics - this level of proficiency is something that a random student (of not-computer subjects) is somewhat likely to have. I mean, it definitely is te…

They don't teach HTML in physics or stats. Most people also don't take an intro to computer programming course.

Re: Dear Web Developers: EFF Needs Your Help

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I was pretty surprised to see the EFF's naive take on the Tea Party [1] in "recent deeplinks" underneath the linked article, which seems not to recognize it as pretty much an astroturf instrument of the neo-bircher Kochs [2], [3]. Of course co-opting TP sympathizers around a common goal of opposing overweening government surveillance to unknown purpose is a Good Thing, but unless the EFF, an org I've respected for ag…

If you're trying to get self-identified Tea Partyers on board, a great start is not alienating them. Appealing to the aspects of their ideology we can all agree on is a great idea to garner allies. The Tea Party's "grassroots" origin may be spurious, but the sense of injustice that fueled its adoption by ordinary folk is real enough. As I understand it, a lot of basically normal, non-frothing people now believe that…

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Re: Dear Web Developers: EFF Needs Your Help

#50

I know this is all in good spirit and you just want to show some appreciation for the help. But rewarding programmers by number of commits is a bit perverse. Nowadays everyone generally agrees that paying programmers per line of code is a bad idea. I think rewarding based on number of commits creates very similar unwanted incentives and should probably be avoided completely.

Needs backlog with priority value, progress state... basically paper trail.

Also, I like the idea of this project, but I hate the pitch. I don't know why. Maybe it is because programmers already go above and beyond, taking care of the stuff that no-one else thinks over. I would actually suggest investing time in looking to fund better development. Just my 2 cents - great idea, best of luck!

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