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Re: Prismic.io goes live

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Post by 14113 »

sadache wrote: post #34
14113 wrote: post #28

I hate this trend that startup homepages seem to be going through. They don't seem to actually explain what their product is . All I can see from this page are a load of assertions that either: A) It's not the same as thing X B) It's better than thing Y, because of Z C) Their Q (which is part of their product) is really really good! To someone landing on the page, that doesn't tell me what they do on a grander, more…

We're working on a different website for explaining the approach of the product. Do you think that the following fails at explaining the idea of the product? prismic.io is a different approach to content management. It features a Writing Room for content writers to author and manage content, and a Content Query Api for developers to integrate managed content into any website or app.

The paragraph you've posted there is very helpful - it gives me more of an idea of what the product as a whole does, and it does sound really quite interesting!

Even doing something like including that at the top of the current website would work wonders for giving an explanation before delving into finer details.

Re: Prismic.io goes live

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Post by nemesisj »

There's no mention of embedding or "white labeling" prismic within other applications. Is this possible? For example, within product X I need to manage quite a bit of content, but would rather not build in a CMS. Can we integrate Prismic to do the content management parts?

Re: Prismic.io goes live

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Post by rudyrigot »

mericsson wrote: post #8

Anyone figure out how to view a site created from scratch that has newly published documents? Not obvious how to view a site as an unauthenticated user. Or is the API the only way to consume content published on a repository/site?

Indeed, you need to set up your application yourself, with your technology of choice. You want to watch that "Getting started" video to get a better understanding of how to do that: https://developers.prismic.io/documentation/UjBaQsuvzdIHvE4D...

Re: Prismic.io goes live

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Post by 14113 »

tobinharris wrote: post #32
14113 wrote: post #28

I hate this trend that startup homepages seem to be going through. They don't seem to actually explain what their product is . All I can see from this page are a load of assertions that either: A) It's not the same as thing X B) It's better than thing Y, because of Z C) Their Q (which is part of their product) is really really good! To someone landing on the page, that doesn't tell me what they do on a grander, more…

I think it's a bit like Wordpress. But instead of showing content on web pages like Wordpress does, Prismic exposes content via API's. So you create and manage your content hierarchy, and then developers access it from a mobile app or website via the API.

Ah, that does sound interesting! Thanks for the more concise explanation!

Re: Prismic.io goes live

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Post by rudyrigot »

nemesisj wrote: post #42

There's no mention of embedding or "white labeling" prismic within other applications. Is this possible? For example, within product X I need to manage quite a bit of content, but would rather not build in a CMS. Can we integrate Prismic to do the content management parts?

This is a great use case for prismic.io!

Since all of your content is structured and delivered through your API, you can simply pull it from your application, and use the content the way you want. Look at me take an existing Bootstrap site, and inject content in it: https://blog.prismic.io/Ux-CMgEAAFwI9kFg/turn-a-bootstrap-th... (here in PHP, but you can use any technology you want). Here, it's a static Bootstrap site, but if your application was more complex, it wouldn't me more complicated to embed prismic.io powered content!

Re: Prismic.io goes live

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Post by crypsis »

This is a cool idea that I think a lot of Digital agencies need. I can't think of how many projects I've lead where we had to build a custom cms for a design that needed to be pixel perfect and was hard to do in either Wordpress or an Enterprise CMS.

However, I think your own website does a poor job of communicating what it does. The language of "display content your way" is very vague and it takes a lot of digging to figure out what it is that you are offering. Your target audience is not the general non-technical user, your target audience is the Technical Lead or Software Architect or programmer that is actually building the website. They are going to be the one that says use this instead of Wordpress or some Enterprise sized CMS.

My suggestions are:

1. Put screenshots of the product immediately on the home page (instead a blank desk, pencils, plants... what is that?).

2. Describe precisely what it is: a new type of CMS that eliminates templates and delivers content as a service to your own custom front end. Everyone hates CMS templates so I think you can strike a chord there. I'm not a copywriter so someone can probably spruce that statement up. I actually echo some of the other commenters statements in that you really ought to have a copywriter look through your content on the website and focus it a bit more. I think the writing/copy on the site is weak in describing the product and needs to be much more technical and specific since your target audience is different.

Re: Prismic.io goes live

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Post by nemesisj »

rudyrigot wrote: post #45
nemesisj wrote: post #42

There's no mention of embedding or "white labeling" prismic within other applications. Is this possible? For example, within product X I need to manage quite a bit of content, but would rather not build in a CMS. Can we integrate Prismic to do the content management parts?

This is a great use case for prismic.io! Since all of your content is structured and delivered through your API, you can simply pull it from your application, and use the content the way you want. Look at me take an existing Bootstrap site, and inject content in it: https://blog.prismic.io/Ux-CMgEAAFwI9kFg/turn-a-bootstrap-th... (here in PHP, but you can use any technology you want). Here, it's a static Bootstrap sit…

Maybe I wasn't very clear. What I'm interested is the reverse - within my application, using the Prismic UI to author content, that I then expose outside the application. I don't want my application's users to know or care about Prismic - they're just using my application. Then I can take the content they've authored and use it like normal either within my app, or external to my app, for example.

Re: Prismic.io goes live

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Post by sunir »

sadache wrote: post #31
sunir wrote: post #11

A few things. I would expect a writing application to have incredible copywriting. You have to out-write the writers! Here are some examples where the text could be improved, though really the whole page needs to be rewritten using the inverted pyramid. 1. "Api" should be "API". 2. "You're the skilled developer, so why would it be ok to settle for technical constraints as soon as there's manageable content involved?"…

Thanks for the valuable feedback. Here is a question, do you think the following explains well the product? "prismic.io is a different approach to content management. It features a Writing Room for content writers to author and manage content, and a Content Query Api for developers to integrate managed content into any website or app."

Again, please spell API correctly. It's an acronym, not a word.

Second, your jargon is for yourselves. You need to speak in the language of your customers.

1. What is a Writing Room?

2. What is a Content Query API?

3. What is managed content?

Third, don't advertise your writing. "prismic.io is a different approach to content management" should be obvious and left unstated.

By the way, this customer testimonial is not helping you. I already feel exhausted thinking about how much work it will be to use you. http://www.elastic.io/blog/82796857416/why-we-chose-api-base...

I think the idea is that you expose the content through an API which can be inserted anywhere.

Prismic.io, an API for content.

Prismic.io is a content management system that only publishes through an API. Let your writers focus on writing and your developers and designers can focus on layout.

Re: Prismic.io goes live

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Post by mojobot »

sadache wrote: post #31
sunir wrote: post #11

A few things. I would expect a writing application to have incredible copywriting. You have to out-write the writers! Here are some examples where the text could be improved, though really the whole page needs to be rewritten using the inverted pyramid. 1. "Api" should be "API". 2. "You're the skilled developer, so why would it be ok to settle for technical constraints as soon as there's manageable content involved?"…

Thanks for the valuable feedback. Here is a question, do you think the following explains well the product? "prismic.io is a different approach to content management. It features a Writing Room for content writers to author and manage content, and a Content Query Api for developers to integrate managed content into any website or app."

"It features a Writing Room for content writers to author and manage content"

I don't know why I'm supposed to want a Writing Room. What makes it more desirable than the post entry pages I'm used to? I think a brief explanation of what value the Writing Room adds would be helpful.

"a Content Query Api for developers to integrate managed content into any website or app."

This should be another sentence and may not be considered a feature depending on who your target is. Also, "integrate managed content" is a little hard to understand. Maybe "embed content" instead.

Re: Prismic.io goes live

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Post by sunir »

sudhirj wrote: post #37
sbisker wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's not constructive about it? He's literally giving sentence by sentence grammatical feedback...I'd be pretty happy to get advice like that.

Normally, yes, but their first language doesn't seem to be English. Might be reason enough to temper things a bit.

I will definitely consider the criticism on tone. However, there can be no slack for English as a second language. They are marketing in English to a market of writers. In any vertical of creatives, you really must outdo your market. They need to get sharp quickly.
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