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Re: Mozilla just can't catch a break

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I don't want to live in a society where people with bigoted and regressive views are merely considered as a difference of opinion. Human rights are absolute. EDIT: So many downvotes, wow.

What about the human right to hold your own beliefs? Are you saying I am no longer allowed to believe what I want, I have to believe what you tell me is right?

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Re: Mozilla just can't catch a break

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I don't know whether this is a joke or not, but what do you expect? Proposition 8 passed. A majority of people were in favor of it. You think those people would just rule out applying the same sort of pressure on mozilla that worked so effectively? This is why, despite supporting gay marriage, I think it is abhorrent that Brendan Eich was effectively forced to resign. He donated privately to a campaign that was suppo…

I don't want to live in a society where people with bigoted and regressive views are merely considered as a difference of opinion. Human rights are absolute. EDIT: So many downvotes, wow.

"So many downvotes, wow."

Is it really surprising considering that a lot of the people here are white racist sexist homophobic males with barely any social skills who laugh at how much they can relate to the "forever alone" meme?

You know, after spending enough time reading HN comments I started thinking tech attracts the worst kind of people. Only recently I realized it's simply not true -- actually I'm kind of happy nobody compared homosexuality to bestialism or pedophillia (well, I haven't really read all the comments on this topic, but I am going to give HN the benefit of the doubt).

It's just that the world is a pretty awful place -- unless you are the "default human being" (white, hetero, male). But it is getting better (very, very slowly).

I'm just happy that there are people like you (and this whole Eich episode proved there's a lot of such people) who make being in the tech industry (and generally being around other human beings) quite bearable.

Re: Mozilla just can't catch a break

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I don't want to live in a society where people with bigoted and regressive views are merely considered as a difference of opinion. Human rights are absolute. EDIT: So many downvotes, wow.

Marriage is a sociopolitical construct, not a human right.

List of rulings that contradict you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_in_the_United_States#M...

Re: Mozilla just can't catch a break

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I don't want to live in a society where people with bigoted and regressive views are merely considered as a difference of opinion. Human rights are absolute. EDIT: So many downvotes, wow.

What about the human right to hold your own beliefs? Are you saying I am no longer allowed to believe what I want, I have to believe what you tell me is right?

Nobody is saying that. But if you for example believe that slavery is right because Bible says so, well, we have a problem here, don't you think?

Actually I'm starting to wonder about the whole idea that you can't fire someone based on their religious beliefs (at least I understand this is the law in the US).

What if I discover one of my employees donated to a political group that is trying to bring back slavery. I definitely wouldn't want someone like that working for me. But I can't let them go because their religious book says slavery is fine and their religious views are protected?

Crazy world.

Re: Mozilla just can't catch a break

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Thankfully, they can switch to a "straight browser". Something like Google Chrome or Apple Safari. Oh, wait, both of them donated money to defeat Prop 8 because they both favor gay marriage. Google even has a whole page about it: Legalise Love: LGBT Rights Are Human Rights: http://www.google.com/diversity/legalise-love.html Maybe they could switch back to Microsoft Internet Explorer. Oh, wait, Microsoft was lobbying for gay marriage to be legalized in Washington state back in 2012 and has included gay marriage in their advertising.

Sorry, folks. All the major browsers are gay.

Re: Mozilla just can't catch a break

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Communists violate human rights too. Bring back the blacklist?

Exactly. They've murdered more people than Nazis and, unlike Nazis, are still doing it on a large scale today (yeah, there are still "Nazis", or yahoos calling themselves such, but they're not running entire countries any more). As far as I can tell from the the rationalizations expressed by the anti-Eich lynch mob, it's now perfectly okay to expose Communists and force them out of their jobs.

That's the way to do it! Make the crimethink go away!

Re: Mozilla just can't catch a break

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I don't know whether this is a joke or not, but what do you expect? Proposition 8 passed. A majority of people were in favor of it. You think those people would just rule out applying the same sort of pressure on mozilla that worked so effectively? This is why, despite supporting gay marriage, I think it is abhorrent that Brendan Eich was effectively forced to resign. He donated privately to a campaign that was suppo…

Just because the majority of people agree with his stance, doesn't mean anything. What, did you think this was some kind of democracy? ;)

The same Democracy that had Africans in chains on plantations. When the future looks back what side will Brendan Eich be on?

Re: Mozilla just can't catch a break

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That situation around B. Eich harmed LGBT group in third-world countries. For example, in Russia people is afraid about gay rights. They think if gays will have equial rights with straights, they starts to hunt anybody who are not pro-gay. And that situation with B. Eich proofs that.

Re: Mozilla just can't catch a break

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That situation around B. Eich harmed LGBT group in third-world countries. For example, in Russia people is afraid about gay rights. They think if gays will have equial rights with straights, they starts to hunt anybody who are not pro-gay. And that situation with B. Eich proofs that.

Russia is a 3rd world country now? Putting away the pedantic definition of 1st-2nd-3rd world, even by the 'modern' conniption, Russia isn't a developing economy.

Re: Mozilla just can't catch a break

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So was slavery, what's your point? State sanctioned discrimination is not just a difference of opinion issue, to reduce it to that is patronising and insulting in the extreme to the people being discriminated.

You're deliberately missing his point. None of this stuff happened until Dear Leader changed his position. Now, all of a sudden, being opposed to gay marriage is the Worst Thing Ever.

Dear leader? Oh you're one of them. Figures.

If you're naive enough to think that people only started caring about gay rights because some leader of a country where you have to prove you go to church to get elected finally started espousing reason, then you're more ridiculously naive than your posts suggest.

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