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Sony releases the Holy Grail: A flexible e-ink screen

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Re: Sony releases the Holy Grail: A flexible e-ink screen

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Post by anigbrowl »

leoc wrote: post #33
toomuchtodo wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YES! This replaces your legal/letter notepad your drag meeting to meeting, not your Kindle.

Apparently Sony's going to a legal-technology trade show to pitch this to wealthy legal firms.

No need to be a wealthy law firm. $1100 for an obviously deductible business expense isn't much, about the same as a quality laptop (and far less than what people used to pay for a quality laptop). You'll see people using these on CSI or some other legal-themed network TV show before the end of the year, possibly even the end of this season. If I was a TV show producer I'd be on the phone to Sony right now begging for two of them - one for the TV lawyers to use on screen, and one for me to mark up scripts on.

Re: Sony releases the Holy Grail: A flexible e-ink screen

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Post by Crito »

anigbrowl wrote: post #38
mdip wrote: post #29

As I've been reading the coverage of this product throughout the day, the price seems to be the biggest drawback everyone focuses on, and I agree that $1100 is overpriced for what this product is offering. I got the sense from several articles that $1100 would be way overpriced for any e-reader. Because of the huge number of PDF files in larger paper sizes that I have, I'd happily pay $1500 for this if in addition to…

It's a premium price that's partly for early adopters to show off, but when you can read and write Japanese on it (as shown in the product video) the deal is basically made. Lawyers will flock to this in droves, not least because it will be a deductible business expense. The color will be irrelevant to them and the Sony brand will actually be an asset, because they're less concerned about Sony's cool factor than the…

Is flexibility a particularly useful feature for lawyers? I've always kind of thought that flexibility was one of the shortcomings of paper in most situations involving writing, hence clipboards.

Re: Sony releases the Holy Grail: A flexible e-ink screen

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Post by toomuchtodo »

anigbrowl wrote: post #41
leoc wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently Sony's going to a legal-technology trade show to pitch this to wealthy legal firms.

No need to be a wealthy law firm. $1100 for an obviously deductible business expense isn't much, about the same as a quality laptop (and far less than what people used to pay for a quality laptop). You'll see people using these on CSI or some other legal-themed network TV show before the end of the year, possibly even the end of this season. If I was a TV show producer I'd be on the phone to Sony right now begging fo…

> If I was a TV show producer I'd be on the phone to Sony right now begging for two of them - one for the TV lawyers to use on screen, and one for me to mark up scripts on.

Bones. I expect to see this on Bones shortly.

Re: Sony releases the Holy Grail: A flexible e-ink screen

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Post by jamesmiller5 »

ben174 wrote: post #5

Still in major need of a refresh rate boost. Especially with stylus input. It would be near-impossible to write at a reasonable speed when the screen takes so long to refresh.

I was pretty upset with it's performance as a writing pad, having 100ms response times, maybe even higher. Even if I didn't have 3 week battery, I'd prefer <35ms draw times so it feels 1-to-1 with the input.

Re: Sony releases the Holy Grail: A flexible e-ink screen

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Post by Retric »

devindotcom wrote: post #12

Not really, I've played with one an the enclosure is pretty rigid. It flexes but it's not like you can fold it and half and then smooth it out. I'm still waiting on that. Also the resolution leaves something to be desired at that size.

Having busted e readers before; being able to flex a little probably does wonders for it's survivability. Light weight + thin + rigid is just a dangerous combo.

Re: Sony releases the Holy Grail: A flexible e-ink screen

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Post by rectangletangle »

guidopallemans wrote: post #22
scarmig wrote: post #19

Attach it to a keyboard. Screen is big enough to code at the beach. Isn't what I wanted Mirasol to be, but looks like a damn fine refinement of e-ink.

sand in the keyboard though...

Hook up one of those new projected keyboards, and I think it'll be ready.

Re: Sony releases the Holy Grail: A flexible e-ink screen

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Post by scholia »

arjn wrote: post #31
mdip wrote: post #29

As I've been reading the coverage of this product throughout the day, the price seems to be the biggest drawback everyone focuses on, and I agree that $1100 is overpriced for what this product is offering. I got the sense from several articles that $1100 would be way overpriced for any e-reader. Because of the huge number of PDF files in larger paper sizes that I have, I'd happily pay $1500 for this if in addition to…

I wonder if the $1100 price is for the dev kit and not an actual retail product.

It's not a retail product, it's a professional product. Sony hasn't launched it in the US, it's being imported by Worldox, which is targeting lawyers etc. http://www.worldox.com/news/sony-digital-paper-worldox

I wonder if people would be better informed if there were more professional journalists and not as many crappy blogs...

Re: Sony releases the Holy Grail: A flexible e-ink screen

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Post by rectangletangle »

TrainedMonkey wrote: post #36

It does not matter how much it costs now. Simple facts that it is possible and technology to produce it exists are important. Within a few years economy of scale and technology optimizations will bring flexible e-ink at affordable price.

This, technology always starts out expensive and impractical. Through mass production and refinement, it becomes practical and useful. Now that it's confirmed possible and somewhat practical, more funding and research is likely to be directed toward it.

Re: Sony releases the Holy Grail: A flexible e-ink screen

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Post by scholia »

Crito wrote: post #42
anigbrowl wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a premium price that's partly for early adopters to show off, but when you can read and write Japanese on it (as shown in the product video) the deal is basically made. Lawyers will flock to this in droves, not least because it will be a deductible business expense. The color will be irrelevant to them and the Sony brand will actually be an asset, because they're less concerned about Sony's cool factor than the…

Is flexibility a particularly useful feature for lawyers? I've always kind of thought that flexibility was one of the shortcomings of paper in most situations involving writing, hence clipboards.

The E-ink screen is flexible. The Sony DPTS1 Digital Paper reader is not flexible: the screen is held in a plastic frame.
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