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Hypercard reimagined – an iOS app maker and private app store

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Re: Hypercard reimagined – an iOS app maker and private app store

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There is an HyperCard inspired tool that is very similar and works on Mac OS X, Windows, Linux and is able to deploy to all those platforms plus Android and iOS. Its a wonderful tool and very easy to learn. It is also GPL. http://livecode.com

The only license I see on the LiveCode site is at http://livecode.com/LiveCode-EULA/ and that specifically mentions that it's not GPL-compatible.

> h) For the avoidance of doubt, this [Commercial] Licensed Edition does not include access to the LiveCode engine source code found in the Community Edition. This Licensed Edition is not compatible with the terms of the GPL and such software may not be incorporated or utilized with this Licensed Edition.

So they've dual-licensed it. The Community Edition source on Github is all GPL with this exception: https://github.com/runrev/livecode/commit/51e3958082d9edd645...

Re: Hypercard reimagined – an iOS app maker and private app store

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Me too! (Well I started first in basic, but HyperCard was where I did my real first programming) I made so many crazy games in HyperCard. I had no idea what I was doing either; I had countless hidden fields that I used to store data, serialized with my own custom format. I loved it though. So much fun!

My biggest 'magic' moment in hypercard was this technique called one-card animation that I copied out of some book. It was basically a script to direct the lasso tool to select an area on the screen, then slowly drag it across the screen. Having it work seemed magical in that I had told the computer what to do and it listened. Been hooked on making software ever since!

Your magic moment reminded me of my first one (although a much less exciting one than yours!)

I was 7 years old and reading my first BASIC programming book... I read how to use a PRINT statement, and ran into my parents room exclaiming how I could print something to the screen!

I have been hooked ever since.

Re: Hypercard reimagined – an iOS app maker and private app store

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Is there something like this for kids? Been teaching my kids to program and I cant find one easy enough to use (ages 5-9) outside of PPT (yes, I consider slide transitions programming). Scratch is ok but its not fun enough for them or maybe too advanced.

What would you expect a 9 yo to accomplish regarding programming? What do you teach them? (it's just a question,not a criticism,before you downvote in mass)

    10 print "my name"
    20 goto 10
And move on from there?

Re: Hypercard reimagined – an iOS app maker and private app store

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Is there something like this for kids? Been teaching my kids to program and I cant find one easy enough to use (ages 5-9) outside of PPT (yes, I consider slide transitions programming). Scratch is ok but its not fun enough for them or maybe too advanced.

What would you expect a 9 yo to accomplish regarding programming? What do you teach them? (it's just a question,not a criticism,before you downvote in mass)

Also, while this tale starts with seventh grade (13 years old?) -- I should think kids these days start out considerably more computer literate:

"Learning About Smalltalk" http://www.atariarchives.org/bcc1/showpage.php?page=61

"My name is Marian Goldeen. (...) I would like to tell you about how I got started working with computers at Xerox and the class I taught."

Re: Hypercard reimagined – an iOS app maker and private app store

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This looks interesting to me, but doesn't Apple hate apps that are too much like the App Store? The Private App Store description seems like it would make it a target for the ban hammer.

One of the PencilCase devs here, thanks for your question. We've already been using AppDrop with clients and it's been great for them to distribute apps to their own users. All price levels get access to AppDrop Community which lets you easily share your creations with a link. The Corporate and Founding Partner levels will also get their very own, configurable custom-branded PencilCase AppDrop store.

That makes a little more sense. I'm very interested in this project. I might actually jump on board after I see it in action for a few months.

Re: Hypercard reimagined – an iOS app maker and private app store

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unless this is programmable in javascript, how is it allowed by apple? and if it is javascript, then it's missing a key feature of hypercard that made it accessible, hypertalk. here's another hypercard inspired app: http://infinitecanvassuite.com/

Hi there, I'm one of the PencilCase devs that worked on the JS engine. The easiest way to get started with PencilCase is using events and actions in the GUI, no programming required. If you want more control you can program in JavaScript as well with access to all of the objects on your cards, web requests, etc. You get the best of both worlds.

That helps. Thanks

Re: Hypercard reimagined – an iOS app maker and private app store

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As someone how doesn't know what hypercard is, I have a hard time understanding what this is. Maybe a couple of concrete use case at the top of the webpage would be helpful?

As someone who does know what Hypercard is, I'd like to see the same thing, and also, a glimpse at what the code looks like.
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