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Re: Twitter is blocked in Turkey

#41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't want to discourage you but we had this "unprecedented, people who are normally not interested in politics are getting involved" thing in Moscow a few years ago and it all died out. Turns out they just sit in their office and pretend nothing happens. And it works unless you actively overthrow them. Of course they say Russians are a nation of slaves but there you go.

The same happened in Turkey last summer too. You might have heard, "the Gezi protests". Looking back, the whole thing just made everyone a bit more extreme on their views. Some government officials just ignored the situation while the prime minister went on a campaign to stop the so called "looters" (yes he did call the protesters that) from "disrespecting the public opinion". Now? It's a flame war between many group…

"Looking back, the whole thing just made everyone a bit more extreme on their views."

Yeah, that's exactly what we had in Russia. The protests were about rigged elections. They also happened to be peaceful. Nevertheless, you can now find a lot of people who call protester names as if that was something provably bad. You can also find a lot of people who outright support everything the state do - thing you could not find before. A lot of people switched from "not caring" to "actively fearing change and swearing on any critique of status quo".

Re: Twitter is blocked in Turkey

#42

I just tried pinging twitter with this tool, the turkey server seems to work: http://cloudmonitor.ca.com/en/ping.php?vtt=1395356295&vargho... but china, egypt, and interestingly panama don't. I'd love to report on this but it's hard to prove this kind of thing. any ideas? (i'm also contacting twitter) edit: here's my story - http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/twitter-blocked-nat... please let me know if you see…

~$ traceroute www.twitter.com

traceroute to www.twitter.com (195.175.254.2), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets

1 192.168.43.1 (192.168.43.1) 3.008 ms 5.479 ms 5.466 ms

2 10.182.5.82 (10.182.5.82) 395.945 ms 395.939 ms 395.924 ms

3 10.182.5.81 (10.182.5.81) 392.815 ms * 392.941 ms

4 10.182.5.234 (10.182.5.234) 395.846 ms 419.025 ms 419.020 ms 5 10.182.5.237 (10.182.5.237) 419.008 ms * 418.972 ms

6 46.234.2.9 (46.234.2.9) 418.958 ms 377.874 ms 798.912 ms 7 88.255.35.29.dynamic.ttnet.com.tr (88.255.35.29) 1208.763 ms 1208.767 ms 1208.767 ms

8 * ulus-t2-1-ulus-t3-1.turktelekom.com.tr.203.212.81.in-addr.arpa (81.212.203.66) 1208.713 ms 1208.699 ms

9 ulus-t3-6-ulus-t2-1.turktelekom.com.tr.29.212.81.in-addr.arpa (81.212.29.99) 1212.270 ms 1212.279 ms 1212.280 ms

10 * * *

This is the blocking point.

Re: Twitter is blocked in Turkey

#43
Background info:

This is hypothesized to be a reaction to a series of audio recordings that were anonymously released over time. These were ridiculously damning, clearly someone is tapping phones without anyone else's knowledge.

Previously:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/27/turkish-pm-corr... http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/iw/contents/articles/origina... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_corruption_scandal_in_Turk...

Some highlights from the "alleged" recordings so far:

- PM calling to get news about an opposing party removed from a TV channel multiple times

- Modifying political poll results to manipulate public opinion

- Getting people of opposing opinions fired

- Buying a large paper shredder to destroy documents

- PM calling son to ask how much money there is at home, son replies saying about 1 trillion, then switches to 3-5 kurush (cents in turkish).

- PM calling son to say "they're raiding the houses, zero out the money". Son says there's only 30 million euros left.

- Call to order the judges to be fixed, and says that a specific person is to be imprisoned.

- Trying to manipulate who goes on the supreme court.

- Says "ignore the prosecutor who's running the corruption investigations". Orders documents ripped up.

(source: http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/yazarlar/25981622.asp)

The official reason for the shutdown is that there were sexual photos of some poor citizen released on twitter against her will, and she complained but twitter refused to take them down. So they decided to shut down the entire website. Yeah, right.

Of course this is ominous that at the end of this month, the local elections will take place. No coincidence.

It's surreal how all this is going down. It's like watching a conspiracy theory movie. Blatant shills everywhere, media manipulation abounds, blatant lies heard on TV from the horse's mouth. We were all skeptical already, it's inevitable when you live in a third world country for years, but wow. When you hear the insiders actually talking to each other, it's a whole new level.

more news on this specific event: http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-blocks-twitter-after... http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/03/turkey-erdogan-...

Related old post here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7189577

edit: Erdogan stated a few days ago that he didn't care what the world thought, and he would eradicate twitter. He said "how dare they listen to our encrypted phone conversations". It's expected that on the 25th, something huge is going to be released that might sway the elections bigtime. Whoever is posting these are doing it slowly and deliberately, a few days at a time, building up anticipation. So people think that twitter getting shut down is probably related to this.

edit2: All recordings were put on youtube by someone: https://www.youtube.com/user/haramzadeler333

Re: Twitter is blocked in Turkey

#44

Something has to be done before this sets an example for other governments. Freedom cannot be taken away from anyone.

Considering the fact that I'm seeing #TwitterisblockedinTurkey as a worldwide trend despite of the ban I would say they are far from being able to take away the freedom at all. They will also probably realize that not far from now.

Re: Twitter is blocked in Turkey

#45
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, The method for blocking websites in Turkey is through ISP's DNS servers. So when you don't use a Turkish ISP DNS server you are all good with most of the blocked sites. Some websites, especially popular porn sites are blocked through the IP. In such cases you need a VPN or proxy. The tool you are using to check Twitter servers probably don't use a Turkish DNS server. If you don't believe, check the website status…

Thanks for the information, I'll try to include this in my report.

You are welcome. If you have any questions feel free to ask, you can reach me by twitter too: @mrtksn

this is how the DNS Look-up for twitter looks like at the moment: http://i.imgur.com/yKmmDYc.jpg

I used TTNET's DNS server for this. It's the biggest ISP in the country.

Re: Twitter is blocked in Turkey

#48
post #17

Many people would see this as a good thing. It's just a big site run by some American company. Amazingly, there are other ways to communicate.

Maybe there are local social networks favoured by those in Turkey, but if they are blocked what are the chances the rest of the world hears about it or cares?

Re: Twitter is blocked in Turkey

#49
post #15

sad to see sites being blocked. Can you use Tor to get around this restriction?

Technically, yes. Usability-wise, no. Most Turkish internet users are mobile-based, anyway.

See https://guardianproject.info/apps/orbot/ for some easy to use Tor apps for Android.
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