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Re: Meta’s entire 24-person team works and lives together in the same estate

#41

Yup. We're all liberal pluralists. Live and let live. Except, of course, for employment choices. We all agree that traditional working environments with all their industrial era baggage sucks, but if I don't leave on the minute after a 40 hours work week, and I don't get paid overtime (so much for the industrial era baggage) it's incontrovertible evidence of rampant exploitation. Employees to claim to like their work…

"we are all".. "we all agree"..

a bunch of commenters on a news site don't all have the same opinion on everything. go figure.

Re: Meta’s entire 24-person team works and lives together in the same estate

#42
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, what happens if I really like the product, and I am eager to work on it, but not 24x7? I suppose I'm not welcome then? This is just sick, IMO.

did you watch the video? nowhere does it imply you're forced to work 24/7 - it's a huge house, I suppose you can just go somewhere else when you need some time alone.

Yeah, somewhere else inside of the compound.

Re: Meta’s entire 24-person team works and lives together in the same estate

#43

Yup. We're all liberal pluralists. Live and let live. Except, of course, for employment choices. We all agree that traditional working environments with all their industrial era baggage sucks, but if I don't leave on the minute after a 40 hours work week, and I don't get paid overtime (so much for the industrial era baggage) it's incontrovertible evidence of rampant exploitation. Employees to claim to like their work…

I'm neither a liberal nor a pluralist, so I totally feel comfortable calling this abberent and cultish. I don't think this is healthy for the kids involved, and I doubt they're getting paid enough to make the sacrifice worthwhile. It just seems like preying on some young males who don't have much of a social life and putting them in a situation that precludes them from developing one. This happens a decent amount in other fields. My friend is a chemical engineer in the middle of nowhere, and while he doesn't live on a cult campus he has a similar problem of social isolation, and its really hurt his mental state. And of course all the young guys working on oil rigs and whatnot. But those guys are often in a situation where they have few other options.

Re: Meta’s entire 24-person team works and lives together in the same estate

#45
I bet they won't even consider married candidates, or even anyone over 30.

We did something like this some 14-15 years ago when we were a 7-8 employee startup, but it was voluntary. Want to stay in the house? Be my guest, we have plenty of bedrooms. Wanna commute? Any time, but be sure to spend at least 6 hours daily in the office house. Worked like charm.

Re: Meta’s entire 24-person team works and lives together in the same estate

#47

This is seriously f#cked up. I can understand 3-4 people who are equals between themselves pulling this off, but with 24 people there's no way everyone likes the arrangement, so having everyone to be in it 24/7 is wrong.

How about companies located in high rent locations leaving employees to choose of high rent or long commutes?

If the logic is "everyone needs to prefer it or we go back to a 'normal' arrangement," normal becomes mandatory.

Re: Meta’s entire 24-person team works and lives together in the same estate

#48

Yup. We're all liberal pluralists. Live and let live. Except, of course, for employment choices. We all agree that traditional working environments with all their industrial era baggage sucks, but if I don't leave on the minute after a 40 hours work week, and I don't get paid overtime (so much for the industrial era baggage) it's incontrovertible evidence of rampant exploitation. Employees to claim to like their work…

I agree. There is a lot of baked in dishonesty relating to careers and jobs and such.

It's very tied in to people's identity and realities often unpleasant to deal with. Many of us spend most our lives in a way we don't like. That's a tough pill. Some aspects of it can be dehumanizing emasculating (for men, of course) or demeaning in other ways.

In any case I think working life feeds you ills that are hard to swallow without a little delusion. Employer want passionate employees. What if you're not passionate? Are you supposed to grin and lie, delude yourself or go find a job spec without passion in it?

A knowledge company in 2014 is different to a factory in 1893 and they are both new on the grander scale. Before them we had lordships and serfodms, guilds, patrons, patriarchs, soldiers, knights, orders, ships, stations, slaves and lots of other things etc. Those things tended to be who you are in the way that we now think of being "A Canadian." A company is a social structure. psychological conformity is a part of all social structures.

note: I also agree with your detractors. It's tricky pointing to hypocrisy in a community Different people's opinions are incompatible. The opinion of a group can be inconsistent without crossing into hypocrisy.

Re: Meta’s entire 24-person team works and lives together in the same estate

#49
post #13

So... Not for anyone with a significant other. Or a family. Or an aversion to spending all day and night with your co-workers.

or black metal

Cradle of Filth are actually one of the best contemporary dark-wave bands in the world.

Re: Meta’s entire 24-person team works and lives together in the same estate

#50
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, what happens if I really like the product, and I am eager to work on it, but not 24x7? I suppose I'm not welcome then? This is just sick, IMO.

did you watch the video? nowhere does it imply you're forced to work 24/7 - it's a huge house, I suppose you can just go somewhere else when you need some time alone.

Personally, I would go work on one of the tanks in my "free" time. I think it would be amazing getting one of those things running again.
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