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Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

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Post by Snail_Commando »

JetSpiegel wrote: post #10
naiyt wrote: post #4

What a crazy bunch of events in the Bitcoin world today. Of course, this isn't necessarily proof that Dorian isn't Satoshi. (I personally don't think that he is, but I guess we'll see.) Regardless, it sure will be nice when the media stops hounding this guy. Especially if he really isn't Satoshi. This could have the potential of completely ruining somebody's life, particularly one who seems rather private like Dorian…

Too late. Whether he his or not, the court of public opinion has already judged him, and he's being chased around LA by "journalists". http://gawker.com/bitcoin-inventor-denies-newsweek-story-aft... This is Gawker, so take it with a truckload of salt. It's mostly just a rehash of several sources.

That sequence of tweets reads like something out of Snow Crash.

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

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Post by seiji »

GuiA wrote: post #24
darkmighty wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They could hold up Dorian and ask Satoshi to post something requiring his key, although that couldn't discard the possibility of Dorian having instructed an acquaintance to do so in case of emergency. There's really no way to prove (a posteriori) without doubt that someone is or isn't Satoshi, unless there was an encypted message left by him (a priori) saying "My DNA is (...)", to which he provides the key.

This is going to become a real life Death Note-style affair!

All we need is 33 bits. We can probably knock off 6-12 bits based on what we know so far.

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

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Post by InclinedPlane »

mangeletti wrote: post #22
ck2 wrote: post #16

So this guy has had a stroke and cancer. Does anyone care the stress might kill him? I guess not. How about we leave him alone.

People are concerned about the origins of something that has the potential of changing humanity (for better or worse) and dethroning the existing financial hegemony. I feel bad about all the cameras being shoved in his face, but there's nothing wrong with people inquiring.

Holy crap, get over yourself. Bitcoin is a flash in the pan fad. Maybe eventually there will be a cryptocurrency that's worthwhile but bitcoin having the "potential of changing humanity" is utter bullshit. Also, your argument is completely ass-backwards. It doesn't matter how important the issue is, means are just as important as ends.

Look at it this way, consider some other examples. Finding out whether or not someone is a pedophile is extremely important, therefore throwing around baseless allegations is warranted regardless of the impact it has on someone's life. Stopping terrorist activity is important and lives potentially hang in the balance, therefore torturing someone on the basis of limited evidence or limiting people's freedoms or discriminating against people because of their race is justified. It's all variations on the "won't somebody please think of the children!" argument. The seriousness of the issue does not and should not change the importance of protecting an individual's privacy, their rights, and their assumption of innocence.

If you thought that your neighbor had the secret to curing cancer that doesn't give you the right to break into his house and beat the shit out of him until he told you what it was. The privacy of Dorian Nakamoto is a slightly less serious issue but it's still important.

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

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Post by elwell »

naiyt wrote: post #4

What a crazy bunch of events in the Bitcoin world today. Of course, this isn't necessarily proof that Dorian isn't Satoshi. (I personally don't think that he is, but I guess we'll see.) Regardless, it sure will be nice when the media stops hounding this guy. Especially if he really isn't Satoshi. This could have the potential of completely ruining somebody's life, particularly one who seems rather private like Dorian…

And it's interestingly affected the exchange absolutely not at all.

http://markets.blockchain.info/

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

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Post by elwell »

darkmighty wrote: post #20
tonylampada wrote: post #15

> I am not Dorian Nakamoto. Is there any way Satoshi could prove this statement? Apart from revealing his identity?

They could hold up Dorian and ask Satoshi to post something requiring his key, although that couldn't discard the possibility of Dorian having instructed an acquaintance to do so in case of emergency. There's really no way to prove (a posteriori) without doubt that someone is or isn't Satoshi, unless there was an encypted message left by him (a priori) saying "My DNA is (...)", to which he provides the key.

dna check wouldn't work either

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

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Post by Varcht »

Satoshi's Dilemma

Satoshi has created a new currency, a cryptocurrency. The currency has become more popular and valuable than Satoshi could have imagined. Satoshi now holds almost $1 Billion of his new currency. Due to the currencies psuedo-anonimity, low liquidity and it's value in illicit trade it is far too dangerous for Satoshi to cash in and reveal himself...

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

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Post by danielnaab »

I'm confused by all this. I find the drama interesting, but Newsweek quoted this:

    "I am no longer involved in that and I cannot discuss
    it," he says, dismissing all further queries with a
    swat of his left hand. "It's been turned over to other
    people. They are in charge of it now. I no longer have
    any connection."
Did the reporter really lie about this statement? That seems like really a massive stretch, to me.

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

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Post by meritt »

SFN wrote: post #30
jnbiche wrote: post #21

Even more interesting: look who signed Satoshi's key on April Fools Day of last year [1]. http://sks.pkqs.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&fingerprint=on&sear... (ignore the signature from today, anyone could have done that in the brouhaha following today's disclosures) Based on that, it looks pretty clear to me that Dorian Nakamoto decided to "latch on" to the Satoshi Nakamoto founder's myth, either as a way to boost his re…

How did John Titor sign it in 2001? The Dorian S Nakamoto signature could be time-faked also.

John Titor is a time traveler.

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

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Post by userbinator »

hendzen wrote: post #19
sheetjs wrote: post #17

At this stage, given the conversation about possible hacking, what would constitute definitive proof that someone is actually Satoshi Nakamoto?

Here is is PGP public key: http://bitcoin.org/satoshinakamoto.asc

Or maybe https://bitcoin.org/satoshinakamoto.asc would be preferable instead.

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

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Post by untog »

danielnaab wrote: post #47

I'm confused by all this. I find the drama interesting, but Newsweek quoted this: "I am no longer involved in that and I cannot discuss it," he says, dismissing all further queries with a swat of his left hand. "It's been turned over to other people. They are in charge of it now. I no longer have any connection." Did the reporter really lie about this statement? That seems like really a massive stretch, to me.

It's quite possible he was involved, but not the creator.
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