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Man Denies He's Bitcoin Founder

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Re: Man Denies He's Bitcoin Founder

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why are we up voting these threads? so someone posts this fancy story about the bitcoin founder he finally found, which for all we know could be false. yet, we have nothing better to up vote than every major news outlets satoshi nakamoto story.

Because AP is the only news service that has been granted an interview.

Re: Man Denies He's Bitcoin Founder

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was not my impression of the HN comments in the least. Most HN commenters seemed to think it was an egregious invasion of his privacy from what I read.

HN in a nutshell: This was an egregious invasion of his privacy! Look, these postings from years ago on various message boards don't match his writing style -- these Amazon reviews don't match the style either -- his INS form doesn't match the timeline as close as expected -- From the streetview of his house, it doesn't look like the house of a hundred-millionaire -- this transaction made 3 years ago to buy juice in…

It's almost as if there was more than person on HN.

Re: Man Denies He's Bitcoin Founder

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Man says X, later claims not X. Bitcoin enthusiasts declare total victory for not X, call for tar and feathering of company that published X. No harm in giving this some time and seeing if "Man Denies He's Bitcoin Founder" turns out to filed next to[1] "Man Denies Connection to Olympic Bombing" or next to "OJ Announces Search For Real Killers". [1] pedantry disclaimer: not meant as perfect analogies

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Re: Man Denies He's Bitcoin Founder

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't think Leah McGrath Goodman and Newsweek did anything illegal I wouldn't be so sure. Both may be subject to tort liability if Dorian Nakamoto != Satoshi Nakamoto. See my tweet: https://twitter.com/declanm/status/441711365888040960 And a response by an attorney who works on Internet issues: https://twitter.com/SeanFlaim/status/441727448539873281

There's also the question of obtaining his email address through a merchant he did business with. That seems like it would be borderline illegal.

the entire story relied on pretexting.

i'd love to see the email to the merchant, bet she didn't identify as a journalist.

Re: Man Denies He's Bitcoin Founder

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I'm holding to my comment! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6828576 >I am only certain of one thing when it comes to bitcoin, the creator(s) are not Japanese.

I still claim that Satoshi Nakamoto is the NSA. Clearly this was one of their fall guys. Terrible people, the NSA, setting up innocent bystanders as scapegoats.

Re: Man Denies He's Bitcoin Founder

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I do not believe him. There are just too many coincidences there. This is not a common name. What are the chances you find someone that has the math and engineering knowledge to create bitcoin and has not been busy with anything else during the relevant period among the "several" people that newsweek found having that name in the entire world.

He is probably scared for his life and scared for the safety of his family. And it might be with good reason. So I am not going to bother him or anything, but lets be honest: he is probably the guy.

I think the bitcoin community will help him regain his anonymity. It is in their interest that the mystery of Satoshi survives. I am sure he is a great person but the face of Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto just does not seem to inspire billion dollar valuations.

Re: Man Denies He's Bitcoin Founder

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I will forever mark the name, Leah McGrath Goodman and Newsweek editorial staff in my mind as a toxic journalist and TMZ-styled publication after this event. Granted, I don't think Leah McGrath Goodman and Newsweek did anything illegal by breaking this story. I don't think it's wrong for Goodman to attempt to contact Satoshi's relatives over the phone. What really crossed the line for me was Leah McGrath Goodman and…

> I don't think Leah McGrath Goodman and Newsweek did anything illegal I wouldn't be so sure. Both may be subject to tort liability if Dorian Nakamoto != Satoshi Nakamoto. See my tweet: https://twitter.com/declanm/status/441711365888040960 And a response by an attorney who works on Internet issues: https://twitter.com/SeanFlaim/status/441727448539873281

He has a colorable claim but no chance of winning. The founder of a cryptocurrency which now boasts of a >$1 billion market is legitimately a matter of the public interest, even if it's not the right guy.

This principle has been established many times by people who were mistaken for criminal defendants (not always defendants with the same name), including the Boston U student who killed himself shortly before the Boston Marathon bombing.

Re: Man Denies He's Bitcoin Founder

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I do not believe him. There are just too many coincidences there. This is not a common name. What are the chances you find someone that has the math and engineering knowledge to create bitcoin and has not been busy with anything else during the relevant period among the "several" people that newsweek found having that name in the entire world. He is probably scared for his life and scared for the safety of his family…

This is not a common name

It's a common Japanese name, like "John Smith".

Re: Man Denies He's Bitcoin Founder

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Ok, I'm sorry but there are some serious inconsistencies here.

Leah McGrath Goodman said that after she asked him about BitCoin he promptly stopped emailing her. The timeline is unclear, but it seems like this was before Goodman contacted his family members. Why would she contact his family members if she was directly talking to him and they could blow her pretext of wanting to talk about model trains?

This strongly suggests that he knew enough about BitCoin to be chased away by the question. He uses English and American spellings, just like Satoshi's mailing list postings. He has a computer engineering background.

When she came to his house he said, verbatim, exactly what happened with BitCoin - "I'm not involved in that anymore." And something to the effect of "That's been handed over to others, I have no involvement with that anymore." This, if it was said, strongly suggests to me that this is in fact Satoshi.

Given that this would be catastrophe for both the journalist and Newsweek if it turned out to be wrong, and they must have seen some compelling evidence if they went forward with the story - I'm skeptical about Dorian Nakamoto's denial here.

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