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Re: Tell HN: Meeting Satoshi

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Post by lucb1e »

rayiner wrote: post #36
g4m8i7 wrote: post #13

All of you asking for the transaction ID are incorrigible. The man clearly wants privacy. The kind of privacy that you all opine for every time there's some governmental incursion. Or some startup gets hacked or whatever. Leave the man be.

If the man wanted privacy, he shouldn't have designed a system that broadcasts every transaction you make out onto the entire internet.

Well we haven't exactly found him through this information yet, but disclosing it after the news of earlier today I think is unethical.

Re: Tell HN: Meeting Satoshi

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Post by Aqueous »

ecto wrote: post #17

This is the address for the creperie's wallet: 1KfQKmME7bQm5AesPiizWk6h3JPUekwoBC Blockexplorer: https://blockexplorer.com/address/1KfQKmME7bQm5AesPiizWk6h3J... Source: http://o-crepes.com/

Following the first 'received' transaction all the way back I found this address that has had 432000 coins sent to it from dozens of addresses on 2011-06-12. A lot of the funds sent from this address were tumbled, so if it associated with Satoshi then he was using a tumbler pretty early on. It could also be a MtGox address.

https://blockexplorer.com/address/1KLahQtqDNAXvrjNyfvgSBtAhw...

Re: Tell HN: Meeting Satoshi

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Post by jellicle »

angrydev wrote: post #15
chevreuil wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why ?

Because a cornerstone of the currency is anonymity.

Actually, disclosing the transaction ID would demonstrate the real cornerstone of bitcoin: the fact that when you get your fingernail under the surface, the whole thing peels up. Identifying Satoshi's account would likely reveal a great deal of information about him and his dealings, and the de-anonymizing can occur anytime, even years or centuries after the fact.

Re: Tell HN: Meeting Satoshi

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Post by rayiner »

jellicle wrote: post #43
angrydev wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because a cornerstone of the currency is anonymity.

Actually, disclosing the transaction ID would demonstrate the real cornerstone of bitcoin: the fact that when you get your fingernail under the surface, the whole thing peels up. Identifying Satoshi's account would likely reveal a great deal of information about him and his dealings, and the de-anonymizing can occur anytime, even years or centuries after the fact.

I have a question about Bitcoin: If someone spends some bitcoin at a cafe, then spends some at the XXX porn shop down the street, can the cafe look at the block chain and deduce that the person visited the porn shop?

Re: Tell HN: Meeting Satoshi

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Post by josephlord »

malgorithms wrote: post #8

Please don't disclose the transaction. It's a serious decision, at least.

I'm not a bitcoin user who is I'm generally a strong believer in privacy and I think the other article went to far (particularly in personal/family details). Having said that there is a legitimate interest for those who do hold bitcoin in anyone who holds a significant portion of the bitcoins as their actions could massively shift the value of their holdings. Owners of signficant stakes of public companies have to be declared for this type of reason.

The interest in the transaction (and information about related holdings) is to me reasonable and relevant given this individual is believed by some to have a massive quantity of coins from very early mining.

Re: Tell HN: Meeting Satoshi

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Post by Delmania »

lucb1e wrote: post #19

Goddamnit guys. Let him be. Come on. Are we hackers here or are we paparazzi? I thought Hacker News was a club of quality-valuing people that saw the world from a hacker's perspective and questioned the status quo. My view is shifting with every comment posted here.

Hi, newsflash "hackers" are people too, and who doesn't love being in the spotlight?

Re: Tell HN: Meeting Satoshi

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Post by Aqueous »

Aqueous wrote: post #42
ecto wrote: post #17

This is the address for the creperie's wallet: 1KfQKmME7bQm5AesPiizWk6h3JPUekwoBC Blockexplorer: https://blockexplorer.com/address/1KfQKmME7bQm5AesPiizWk6h3J... Source: http://o-crepes.com/

Following the first 'received' transaction all the way back I found this address that has had 432000 coins sent to it from dozens of addresses on 2011-06-12. A lot of the funds sent from this address were tumbled, so if it associated with Satoshi then he was using a tumbler pretty early on. It could also be a MtGox address. https://blockexplorer.com/address/1KLahQtqDNAXvrjNyfvgSBtAhw...

Hmm. It seems possible that this address was a Gox location, since following the tumbling trail led me to this address:

https://blockexplorer.com/address/1eHhgW6vquBYhwMPhQ668HPjxT...

This is the famous "424242" transaction that Mark Kerpeles signed to prove that he was in control of enough BitCoins to keep Gox solvent in 2011. Perhaps the first 'received transaction' wasn't actually Satoshi's.

Re: Tell HN: Meeting Satoshi

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Post by Peroni »

Delmania wrote: post #48
lucb1e wrote: post #19

Goddamnit guys. Let him be. Come on. Are we hackers here or are we paparazzi? I thought Hacker News was a club of quality-valuing people that saw the world from a hacker's perspective and questioned the status quo. My view is shifting with every comment posted here.

Hi, newsflash "hackers" are people too, and who doesn't love being in the spotlight?

Dong Nguyen and Satoshi Nakamoto.
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