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How did they publicly insult him?
"It's gonna be a bad week for you my friend." If someone told me that, I'd feel absolutely terrible inside. And that is the definition of an insult. Since they said that on twitter, that fits the "publicly" label don't you think?
FYI, I think a threat is worse than an insult in most cases.
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Oh, you bet. The first rule of business is "the customer's always right." And I fall squarely in their definition of "the customer".
That's a mindlessly simplistic view of it. Do you seriously think HTC corporate hierarchy is going to change their policy on protecting IP and apologize to a person who unlawfully disseminated information on their products just to please the 10's of people that might be outraged over this? You can't please all the people all the time. Sometimes the customer is an idiot not worth your time.
Can you expand on this - I watched the video, what part was unlawful (stating the jurisdiction and legislation/caselaw that apply would help)?
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How did they publicly insult him?
"It's gonna be a bad week for you my friend." If someone told me that, I'd feel absolutely terrible inside. And that is the definition of an insult. Since they said that on twitter, that fits the "publicly" label don't you think?
No it's not. The person who leaked the info should feel some responsibility for his actions. I don't think HTC exec's actions were not to scale in opinion. But this is no way an insult.
Lots of kids appear to be losing their parents money. Giving your kids access to tech under NDA is like giving your kids access to guys. You are not going to have a good time. You can debate the degree to which this kind of secrecy is warranted, but at the end of the day, when you sign an NDA it is legally binding, and you can't simply blame violating that legal contract with a "Kids will be kids" The phone looks awe…
Access to guys? I'm not sure that's what you meant, if it is then can you expand?
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Your reply reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Judge Snyder lets Bart out of any kind of personal responsibility under the "Boys will be boys" rule. I'm sorry but I don't agree. People should be held responsible for their actions and perform their job duties to what is expected. This child's parent should absolutely be held responsible. We live in a society that wants to take no responsibly and sue everyone and…
The kid did nothing wrong (unless he stole the phone, obviously). Even in the article it says "the person who will be held accountable will ostensibly be the party who signed an NDA to get the handset, not Jamkatel himself", which is exactly the way it should be handled. It's not clear that the kid is in trouble at all.
First, he tried to claim is was fake.
Then he said he didn't post the video.
Then he claims his parents work for HTC.
Sure, HTC's wording is probably not exactly kid gloves, but it sounds like - we're going to sue your sorry a*se to get our stolen property back.
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The real owner of the phone is the one that is going to be in trouble not the kid. However the article did say that neither of the kid's parents work at HTC which most likely means he stole the phone from somewhere. He deserves everything he has coming to him.
He's a kid. He might have stolen the phone, or it might have been given to him by someone at his school, or he might have found it on the street, on a park bench, or at a public library. We just don't know. "most likely stole the phone" isn't a true statement. He's a kid. Is this how we treat children in this day and age? Is this the civilized thing to do? I don't think so. Anyway, HTC could simply have said: "Thank…
That's how it works - "finders keepers" never applies, ever.
I don't know, maybe this kid's parents forgot to teach him.
But either way, just from a use your brain perspective, if you do have stolen property, the last thing you want to do is go bragging on the internet in a video about it.
And the fact that the kid seems to be a prolific liar (and a bad one) doesn't exactly help me sympathise with him.
Sure, ok, he somehow "got in possession" of stolen property. He decided to brag about it in an internet video (which he later denies).
Why does he continue to lie again, and again, and again?
First it's - oh, the phone is a fake. Dude, the frigging IMEI number is right there.
Second, I didn't share the video. Sure, that's why it reads like every other internet review - gee, you filmed this with the express purpose of showing nobody?
Thirdly, my parents work for HTC - don't you think HTC would be able to find out in about 5 seconds if your parents worked for them?
Also - we don't even know the consequences.
As it stands, he's probably going to just get hauled in for having stolen property, told to give it back, and then given a stern talking to by a judge.
Unless of course he's stupid enough to try lying to the judge as well.
Then he'll quickly see that in the real world, your actions do have consequences.
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How did they publicly insult him?
"It's gonna be a bad week for you my friend." If someone told me that, I'd feel absolutely terrible inside. And that is the definition of an insult. Since they said that on twitter, that fits the "publicly" label don't you think?
Gee, I have stolen property - either pinched by me, or pinched by somebody and given to me.
I can either say, whoops, I'll give it back.
Or I can try lying to them in a completely stupid way, to try and worm my way out of this, so I still get to keep the phone.
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Sure one question; Do you think you're little rant is more important to them than guarding their IP and controlling the release of their products? Because it isn't. And I can't seriously believe you are telling HTC to apologize. The tweets, though misguided, are barely threatening. And whoever works for the company that the kid knows deserves to get fired. They shouldn't have let the phone come into anyone else's pos…
"It's not going to be a good week for you, my friend" is definitely threatening, at least to the ear of someone who has watched crime and gangster movies. While these kinds of communciations shouldn't be on Twitter in the first place, HTC would have been far more professional to say "This is a violation of our IP rights and we are commencing aggressive legal action."
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That's a mindlessly simplistic view of it. Do you seriously think HTC corporate hierarchy is going to change their policy on protecting IP and apologize to a person who unlawfully disseminated information on their products just to please the 10's of people that might be outraged over this? You can't please all the people all the time. Sometimes the customer is an idiot not worth your time.
> apologize to a person who unlawfully disseminated information on their products // Can you expand on this - I watched the video, what part was unlawful (stating the jurisdiction and legislation/caselaw that apply would help)?
Can you think of a jurisdiction where that's not illegal? Lol.
The kid either stole it, or he somehow knowingly came into possession of stolen property.
Just because you find something, doesn't make it yours.
The right thing to do, when you find something that is obviously stolen (and there is no way an NDA phone would not be) is to return it.
Stealing something is illegal, and buying something that's stolen is also illegal.
It's like Gawker, and the whole stolen iPhone fiasco.
Much as I detest Apple, Gawker were definitely in the wrong there.
And this kid didn't help things by trying to lie again, and again, and again afterwards.
Just say, whoops, I "didn't" know it was stolen, and hand it back - no harm, no foul.
Trying to weasel your way out so you can keep your stolen shiny bauble isn't cool.