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GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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This is why I have a piece of cardboard hanging over my webcam. That would have seemed extremely paranoid last year.

Anyone have any recommendations for a nicer looking manufactured version of this?

Use one of the EFF stickers https://supporters.eff.org/donate ;)

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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post #2

Disgusting. A new low. Who the fuck do you think you are, UK & USA? You do not have the right to intrude the way you do.

I don't want to see your dick, but I don't have a massively funded standing army or insane amounts of money to sway those who do.

Like it or not, this is the reality of our world now: control belongs to paranoid career bureaucrats more interested in preserving their budgets than any measure of civil liberty.

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously, it's not a good thing, but is it really worse than recording all phone call metadata and phone call content?

Yes, because for political purposes, a compromising photo has far better blackmail value than other data.

But you can't use that blackmail tool without revealing that you were spying illegally. Revealing that would be worse for the blackmailer than the blackmailee.

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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This really isn't any worse than the other invasions of privacy that have been revealed – but it's much easier to point at it as an egregious and visceral violation of privacy. Even though webcam stills may be the least important (or useful) spying the US and UK have been doing, this may be some of the best fodder for arguments to limit such activities. So thank you, UK, for being so dumb.

Whether it's worse or not, it's violating our privacy to an extent where there is barely anything left to be exposed.

I assume they do the same with Skype, Lync etc. I hate the thought of being photographed by these creepy "intelligence officers" every time I'm on a webcam. Probably it also happens when we don't use the webcam.

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

#45

Potentially GCHQ could be sat on one of the largest private collections of indecent images of people underage. The age range is liable to be 14-50, the article says around 7% were of people doing naughty things on camera, even if that tails off at the age extremes that's still a worrying thought. Keeping a creepy eye on your junk, just in case you're a terrorist.

I'll email the met and tip them off right now. Lets see how evenly we enforce the law in this country.

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

#46
This kind of data would be tremendous treasure trove for future historians :-) Imagine if we had this kind of data on previous periods, we'd be able to infer a lot of how people behaved, what their pastime was, better understand the fashion sense (or lack of it for certain photos apparently)...

More seriously, in a way, I think it's good that this happened because I hope that it will be a wake up call to the public opinion so that we might avoid living in a future with no rights to privacy. I'm really grateful that Snowden made the sacrifices he did to give us those information.

It's amazing to think of the potential of blackmail over politicians these kind of scheme would give...

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

#47

This really isn't any worse than the other invasions of privacy that have been revealed – but it's much easier to point at it as an egregious and visceral violation of privacy. Even though webcam stills may be the least important (or useful) spying the US and UK have been doing, this may be some of the best fodder for arguments to limit such activities. So thank you, UK, for being so dumb.

> Even though webcam stills may be the least important (or useful) spying the US and UK

Blackmail. Polticial, economic, and spying-related informant-turning blackmail.

The CIA's primary business is getting informants and agents all over the world. Usually via some threat. This is perfect fodder for it.

Using cheating and sex (ie homosexuality in the 50s) against people is one of the most classic examples of recruiting strategies for intelligence agencies.

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

#48

I wonder what they are doing with all the d #k pics? Making a database and cross referencing them with d #k pics of known terrorists? To use in conjunction with full body scanners at airports so they can more easily spot a potential terrorist just by looking at their junk? Stranger things have happened.

What do you think? Anthony Weiner like situations. It was only news a few days ago:

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipula...

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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post #2

Disgusting. A new low. Who the fuck do you think you are, UK & USA? You do not have the right to intrude the way you do.

It's our governments, it's not us. I'm disgusted too, which is why I'm reporting them to the police.
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