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All of the competition can only be good for us developers. This, ST3, Light Table, Brackets, etc. Bring on the text editor wars!

Don't forget IDE family like http://c9.io/ Edit anywhere just with a browser is a win IMHO. Also easy pairing.

Love C9 as well, been a big fan of that one since its early days, thanks for adding that!

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What sets this apart from the other WebKit-based text editors, LightTable and Brackets? In general it seems like there's been an explosion of new text editors with this style since TextMate went into hibernation around 2008. It's great to have options, but there's lots of these TextMate clones now.

LightTable is different then most editors by design, in that it tries to reproduce Bret Victor's idea on "the future of programming". Brackets is really neat, it just attempts to be a good editor, it has some unique features like toggling css inline from an html file for example and other jazz. So Atom isn't something that's really set apart from webkit-based editor, but I don't think that's what's important here. It…

You seem a little harsh on Emacs, but I'm with you in general. (To be fair, Emacs is an enormous pain to get into, has a bunch of legacy cruft, has odd terminology that is difficult to learn, and has a terrible default config. To be fair, Emacs is also leagues ahead of its competitors [referring to Light Table, Brackets, Sublime, and this] in terms of plugins and maturity).

I really just want something with Emacs' principles that doesn't have as much cruft and runs on the web. Light Table seems to be the best bet so far, but this looks interesting as well.

Re: GitHub's new text editor leaked on Twitter

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holy cow this thing has like 70 repositories! And I found a screenshot... looks very much like sublime text: https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/1424/1228569/cce6eb26-27a6... edit: based on this[1], it looks like this is a GitHub-aware/integrated text editor that targets both desktop (Mac, at least) and web [1] https://gist.github.com/elcuervo/eb68883f233baf5a46c8

This looks pretty cool, there seems to be Vim shortcuts [1] and even theming. Judging from your screenshot, Solarized Dark is the default theme? But I'd have to wait until its release (or beta, should I be so lucky!) to consider moving from standard vim editor and Solarized in my Xresources. [1] https://github.com/atom/vim-mode

hmm.. so it even has an Atom package manager!

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I really can't wait for this to be released. I am a little pessimistic about the Vim mode. There are countless 80 or 90% complete Vim modes in various modern editors. But the absence of a truly native feeling Vim (that last 10%) is a deal breaker for many. I'd rather see more editor developers spend time finding a solution that provides a truly authentic Vim mode instead of spending countless hours merely approaching…

Curious as to your opinion on Evil from Emacs - I've been learning Evil without knowing Vim first, so I don't know what I might be missing.

I'm not an Evil expert, but my experience were that the conflicts with existing Emacs keybindings made things more frustrating. As a vim user interested in Emacs I'm trying to avoid Evil and other "90%" vim emulations from now on as well.

Re: GitHub's new text editor leaked on Twitter

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What sets this apart from the other WebKit-based text editors, LightTable and Brackets? In general it seems like there's been an explosion of new text editors with this style since TextMate went into hibernation around 2008. It's great to have options, but there's lots of these TextMate clones now.

What sets it apart? We will find out when it is released. I doubt GitHub would waste there time building a TextMate clone unless they have something intriguing or new to bring to the table.

For one thing though, we can probably expect incredible GitHub integration.

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I really can't wait for this to be released. I am a little pessimistic about the Vim mode. There are countless 80 or 90% complete Vim modes in various modern editors. But the absence of a truly native feeling Vim (that last 10%) is a deal breaker for many. I'd rather see more editor developers spend time finding a solution that provides a truly authentic Vim mode instead of spending countless hours merely approaching…

Why not just use Vim?

If it's not vimmy enough, I bet people will.

Re: GitHub's new text editor leaked on Twitter

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I really can't wait for this to be released. I am a little pessimistic about the Vim mode. There are countless 80 or 90% complete Vim modes in various modern editors. But the absence of a truly native feeling Vim (that last 10%) is a deal breaker for many. I'd rather see more editor developers spend time finding a solution that provides a truly authentic Vim mode instead of spending countless hours merely approaching…

What really bugs me are Vim modes that don't allow you to easily add new keybindings that abstract combinations of keystrokes, i.e. map . For instance, I love to bind "s" to "go into insert mode, insert one character, exit insert mode". I feel crippled without this binding, but making it happen in Sublime 3 with Vintageous is daunting. It involves understanding the Sublime API and constructing some complex block of configuration code with way too many commas and brackets (JSON sucks). In Vim, configuration is a bunch of one-liners and I love that.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And it's totally gonna be awesome. I'm fairly confident they built it around node-webkit or another wrapper, perhaps in browser, I'm not sure. What's important is that it's a text editor on top of web technologies. I was poking around doing the same a couple months back, brackets has been doing it for even longer. It's honestly sorely needed because of the amount of expression one can put into due to it's technologic…

> An open, compile-less, hot-reloading editor sounds like a dream coming true. You're talking about Emacs, right? This actually seems really exciting, and I'll give it a whirl when and if I can. It's just funny to see people (the Light Table fans as well) rediscover what Emacs users already knew - modifying your editor in-place is really awesome .

> It's just funny to see people (the Light Table fans as well) rediscover what Emacs users already knew

Since many of the Light Table fans either use or have used Emacs, I would say that it is more of a relief to have something that takes the Emacs concepts and tries to modernize, adapt, or polish them. It might also be good to mention that the Light Table team chose a "usable editor first" strategy to build a user base, before attempting the concepts they demoed early on in development. So, we will see if it ends up mimicking Emacs or, perhaps, something different.

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