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Re: This App Trains You to See Farther

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Post by rschmitty »

cjensen wrote: post #39
staunch wrote: post #38

> " When a major league baseball pitcher throws a 95-mph fastball, only about 400 milliseconds—the duration of a blink—pass before the ball rockets over the plate. And a batter gets less than half that time to decide whether to swing, and where. Baseball" Bah! That's not a knife. This is a knife: twitch FPS gaming. Quake Live at 250 FPS, refreshed at 144hz, with any day . Interestingly, my vision is extremely good. I…

You would lose the bet :-) Keep in mind that the ball is coming straight on, and the batter must discern trajectory (rising, falling) and spin (which affects how the ball curves) and velocity quickly enough that you still have time to move the bat. For example, a fastball and a changeup both drop at the same rate and spin at the same rate. One is coming at 100mph, the other at 75. Since the ball is heading straight f…

A ball that is going to a predetermined area while you stand still...

Hitting a headshot of another player that can go in any direction / velocity while you yourself are traveling in any direction velocity all _before_ that player kills you can be very challenging and depend on very high skill and reaction times

The amount of money a player makes compared to someone in another sport has no bearing.

Re: This App Trains You to See Farther

#42

Post by reubenmorais »

crazygringo wrote: post #32

Ugh, their website doesn't even explain what platforms it works on. Their home page, about page, and FAQ don't mention it at all. Their purchase page has mysterious Apple and Windows icons, with a message saying "Is Now Available on the iPad". But is there a Windows version, which the Windows icon would suggest? Or is it Windows Phone? OSX version? Web version? It says "Available on the App Store", but on my iPhone I…

There is an OS X version. I'd assume there is also a Windows and an iPad one. I bought it earlier today and did the first session. It was fun. My eyes felt weird for the first few minutes after finishing the session.

Re: This App Trains You to See Farther

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Post by [deleted] »

rschmitty wrote: post #41
cjensen wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You would lose the bet :-) Keep in mind that the ball is coming straight on, and the batter must discern trajectory (rising, falling) and spin (which affects how the ball curves) and velocity quickly enough that you still have time to move the bat. For example, a fastball and a changeup both drop at the same rate and spin at the same rate. One is coming at 100mph, the other at 75. Since the ball is heading straight f…

A ball that is going to a predetermined area while you stand still... Hitting a headshot of another player that can go in any direction / velocity while you yourself are traveling in any direction velocity all _before_ that player kills you can be very challenging and depend on very high skill and reaction times The amount of money a player makes compared to someone in another sport has no bearing.

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Re: This App Trains You to See Farther

#44

Post by mkl »

crazygringo wrote: post #32

Ugh, their website doesn't even explain what platforms it works on. Their home page, about page, and FAQ don't mention it at all. Their purchase page has mysterious Apple and Windows icons, with a message saying "Is Now Available on the iPad". But is there a Windows version, which the Windows icon would suggest? Or is it Windows Phone? OSX version? Web version? It says "Available on the App Store", but on my iPhone I…

Yes, the website is pretty terrible. An OSX version seems to exist, since they used a Mac Mini in their research. More info I've found:

- video interview with researchers Seitz, Deveau and Ozer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKbbF66cyqI

- short published article on the baseball study: https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(14)...

- lots more technical info about the app and the study (supplemental data to above article): http://download.cell.com/current-biology/mmcs/journals/0960-...

Re: This App Trains You to See Farther

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Post by [deleted] »

rschmitty wrote: post #41
cjensen wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You would lose the bet :-) Keep in mind that the ball is coming straight on, and the batter must discern trajectory (rising, falling) and spin (which affects how the ball curves) and velocity quickly enough that you still have time to move the bat. For example, a fastball and a changeup both drop at the same rate and spin at the same rate. One is coming at 100mph, the other at 75. Since the ball is heading straight f…

A ball that is going to a predetermined area while you stand still... Hitting a headshot of another player that can go in any direction / velocity while you yourself are traveling in any direction velocity all _before_ that player kills you can be very challenging and depend on very high skill and reaction times The amount of money a player makes compared to someone in another sport has no bearing.

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Re: This App Trains You to See Farther

#47

Post by logicallee »

pohl wrote: post #25
maaaats wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you heard about the McCollough[1] effect? Check the URL, it's an image you can look at for a few minutes, and it will change the way you process images for several hours. For me it lasted days. And it's all in the brain. http://www.cheswick.com/ches/projects/me/

Fascinating. I couldn't get it to work for me. Maybe I didn't gaze long enough at the color images. Or maybe it's my introversion: "One paper found that it is stronger in extroverts than introverts, and might be a reliable test for extroversion."

To me it's pretty obvious how it works. It's a somewhat unusual pattern, and your mind is trying to remember where it saw it before and apply some of it. (In point of fact you just saw it a few minutes ago, so that's what you're remembering - it's not a long-term thing.)

If you look carefully at the word at the end of this paragraph I can't imagine that you don't see at least some of the appropriate colors faintly in it. Google.

Re: This App Trains You to See Farther

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Post by singlow »

cjensen wrote: post #39
staunch wrote: post #38

> " When a major league baseball pitcher throws a 95-mph fastball, only about 400 milliseconds—the duration of a blink—pass before the ball rockets over the plate. And a batter gets less than half that time to decide whether to swing, and where. Baseball" Bah! That's not a knife. This is a knife: twitch FPS gaming. Quake Live at 250 FPS, refreshed at 144hz, with any day . Interestingly, my vision is extremely good. I…

You would lose the bet :-) Keep in mind that the ball is coming straight on, and the batter must discern trajectory (rising, falling) and spin (which affects how the ball curves) and velocity quickly enough that you still have time to move the bat. For example, a fastball and a changeup both drop at the same rate and spin at the same rate. One is coming at 100mph, the other at 75. Since the ball is heading straight f…

You have both training and selection in both cases. In both cases you have extensive training and in both cases the number of training hours is ridiculous. However, there are negative and positive selection biases for each. Baseball has million dollar contracts as incentive, but also has the negative selection biases associated with the relatively small portion of the world that has baseball training facilities and the added requirements of physical strength that may prevent many with the natural talent from being eligible.

Large salaries are not necessarily enough. If you select the top 100 people in the world for natural talent in reaction times, how many would meet all of the requirements for being a good baseball player?

Baseball players make good money only if they can combine a top 0.01% reaction time with all of the other skills. There may be plenty of people that can top that one aspect but could never compete for those contracts.

Re: This App Trains You to See Farther

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Post by [deleted] »

staunch wrote: post #38

> " When a major league baseball pitcher throws a 95-mph fastball, only about 400 milliseconds—the duration of a blink—pass before the ball rockets over the plate. And a batter gets less than half that time to decide whether to swing, and where. Baseball" Bah! That's not a knife. This is a knife: twitch FPS gaming. Quake Live at 250 FPS, refreshed at 144hz, with any day . Interestingly, my vision is extremely good. I…

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