Blockchain’s Response to Apple • Hacker News Board

Re: Blockchain’s Response to Apple

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Post by madeofpalk » Thu, Feb 06, 2014, 1:59 AM UTC

Don't mistake to maliciousness what can be attributed to naievity.

The reason Apple has issues with other payment methods on their App Store is that they can't control them. Meaning, they can't ensure the user experiance they would like to, and when things go wrong, they can't fix it.

Apple's userbase is so large and diverse now that users blame things on Apple that shouldnt (e.g. they loose money through bitcoin they used with an iPhone app, Apple gets blamed ). This is their way of minimising that.

Re: Blockchain’s Response to Apple

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Post by jsz0 » Thu, Feb 06, 2014, 2:01 AM UTC

Apple isn't even remotely close to having a monopoly in the SmartPhone market. That's such a non-sense thing to say in an official statement. My perception of block chain.info is now a company that lies / misrepresents the truth on purpose. Good work guys.

Re: Blockchain’s Response to Apple

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Post by jasonlotito » Thu, Feb 06, 2014, 2:02 AM UTC

threeseed wrote: post #34

freyrs3 wrote: post #31

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And that's because those companies have made deals with Apple behind closed doors that your average app developer can't leverage. It's rational in the sense that it serves their interests.

Care to provide evidence of this ? I led the mobile development effort for a very large international bank which was doing peer-peer payments. We didn't make any special deals and were subject to the same conditions as everyone else.

One only need to make a payment through Fandango's iOS app and see that you can use PayPal to see that Apple's rules aren't the same for everyone.

Re: Blockchain’s Response to Apple

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Post by jasonlotito » Thu, Feb 06, 2014, 2:05 AM UTC

threeseed wrote: post #36

ye wrote: post #13

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Switch to Android. It will make a dent. Bitcoin people are not a random demographic, they are early adopters, many are entrepreneurs, most are young.

Any "dent" would be eclipsed by Apple running another TV ad in China or India. I doubt they could care less.

It's not one dent that makes a difference. But a thousand little dents do make a difference.

Re: Blockchain’s Response to Apple

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Post by 27182818284 » Thu, Feb 06, 2014, 2:06 AM UTC

ye wrote: post #13

colinbartlett wrote: post #10

What's the best way to make noise about this? Sure, I can switch to Android but A) I don't really want to do that and B) losing a handful of Bitcoin enthusiasts to another platform is really not going to dent Apple in any way.

Switch to Android. It will make a dent. Bitcoin people are not a random demographic, they are early adopters, many are entrepreneurs, most are young.

They mention there were only 120K downloads. It may be true that bitcoin people are early adopters, but those early adopters aren't using wallets downloaded from the app store. For comparison December 2013 saw 3 billion total app downloads. Early adopters of iOS bitcoin wallet apps are a fraction of a fraction of a niche right now.

Re: Blockchain’s Response to Apple

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Feb 06, 2014, 2:07 AM UTC

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Re: Blockchain’s Response to Apple

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Post by beedogs » Thu, Feb 06, 2014, 2:13 AM UTC

Apple's a pretty terrible company. This should've been expected.

Re: Blockchain’s Response to Apple

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Post by beedogs » Thu, Feb 06, 2014, 2:15 AM UTC

threeseed wrote: post #33

barce wrote: post #28

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By that logic they should ban Paypal, Dwolla, Gyft, Gowallet, Visa, and any other payment app. They clearly haven't, and I'm not sure how Bitcoin apps are any different. The point is they aren't acting rationally.

Apple is acting completely rationally. They are being selfish. Bitcoin wallets have a terrible reputation for losing their customer's money and Bitcoin itself still has very unsavoury elements (drugs, money laundering etc) to say the least. Given that the press love a good Apple story you have to ask yourself why take the potential hit to the brand for no benefit ?

For two years, that bitcoin wallet app was available for download from the App Store. Now, suddenly, it's an issue of "reputation"? What a load of crap.

Re: Blockchain’s Response to Apple

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Post by cefstat » Thu, Feb 06, 2014, 2:29 AM UTC

beedogs wrote: post #48

threeseed wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is acting completely rationally. They are being selfish. Bitcoin wallets have a terrible reputation for losing their customer's money and Bitcoin itself still has very unsavoury elements (drugs, money laundering etc) to say the least. Given that the press love a good Apple story you have to ask yourself why take the potential hit to the brand for no benefit ?

For two years , that bitcoin wallet app was available for download from the App Store. Now, suddenly, it's an issue of "reputation"? What a load of crap.

Well, it is only now that bitcoin is getting more widespread recognition and traction in traditional media.

Re: Blockchain’s Response to Apple

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Post by ye » Thu, Feb 06, 2014, 2:30 AM UTC

27182818284 wrote: post #45

ye wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Switch to Android. It will make a dent. Bitcoin people are not a random demographic, they are early adopters, many are entrepreneurs, most are young.

They mention there were only 120K downloads. It may be true that bitcoin people are early adopters, but those early adopters aren't using wallets downloaded from the app store. For comparison December 2013 saw 3 billion total app downloads. Early adopters of iOS bitcoin wallet apps are a fraction of a fraction of a niche right now.

A) Bitcoin is not as big as you think, yet. 120K downloads is not that bad.

B) Since Apple is so hostile towards Bitcoin, many people have switched to better alternatives and simply don't care about Apple's private North Korea with an insane leader.