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Re: Open for everyone

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Post by cyanbane »

minimaxir wrote: post #12
mijustin wrote: post #9

Open for everyone My first question is: "who is this for?" The interface, and experience look great. But who needs this? Who is pulling out their hair looking for a new hosted publishing platform that they don't control? Maybe this is a "hair-on-fire" (Patio11) problem for some folks - but I couldn't tell from the blog post. I think this is a mistake a lot of us make when we're marketing, writing about our products:…

It's for the intersection of people a) who want a blog and b) who want a website with a good design. Medium beat Svbtle to the punch, though.

and Ghost which is self service and hosted.

Re: Open for everyone

#42

Post by debacle »

quadrangle wrote: post #22

"Open" for use but not for inspection / modification / sharing… It's like all sorts of SaaS: it's a lock-in, a jail, that is open for you to enter. Ok, that's a bit harsh. But still, we've got lots of good tools like this, we don't need another proprietary thing. It looks nice though, would be useful if it were fully FLOSS.

Don't blame svbtle. It's the monetization strategy of the Internet, and has been for 20 years.

Re: Open for everyone

#43

Post by evan_ »

noir_lord wrote: post #16
danso wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the copy is off-putting, it's because my natural cynicism that such text is used to polish up an otherwise mundane and common pattern...however, this copy gets a thumbs up from me for its relative lack of adjectives...e.g., none of this: "Svbtle's beautiful dashboard"..."It gracefully encourages"..."an amazing flow of beautiful draft posts"

If you hate superfluous adjectives don't ever watch an Apple demo video (I suspect that is where the approach got widespread traction).

yes Apple invented marketing that uses positive words to describe a product

Re: Open for everyone

#44

Post by 650REDHAIR »

cliveowen wrote: post #17
minimaxir wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's for the intersection of people a) who want a blog and b) who want a website with a good design. Medium beat Svbtle to the punch, though.

Medium wants you to have a Twitter account.

Wouldn't most modern writers have a Twitter account anyway? If you're publishing your piece online wouldn't you want everyone to see it?

Re: Open for everyone

#45

Post by mijustin »

lbr wrote: post #33
mijustin wrote: post #9

Open for everyone My first question is: "who is this for?" The interface, and experience look great. But who needs this? Who is pulling out their hair looking for a new hosted publishing platform that they don't control? Maybe this is a "hair-on-fire" (Patio11) problem for some folks - but I couldn't tell from the blog post. I think this is a mistake a lot of us make when we're marketing, writing about our products:…

It feels to me that they did build this for a certain type of person. One who likes writing without distractions. One who likes to brainstorm. One who appreciates simplicity. I assume that the initial product was built around the "seasoned and experienced authors" who initially populated the site. And the founder, Dustin Curtis. It seems that this was built for a very small group of people. But like many products tha…

To me that still feels too general: "seasoned and experienced authors" could be a 45 year-old erotica writer who sells books on Amazon, or it could be a 23 year-old tech news blogger who's been posting since age 15.

For example, imagine if the blog post / homepage looked something like this:

"Blogging built for developers"

-"Having trouble building a technical audience?"

-"Want to properly format your posts with syntax highlighting?"

-"Need support for code snippets?"

"Then this platform is for you"

Re: Open for everyone

#47

Post by gmu3 »

minimaxir wrote: post #12
mijustin wrote: post #9

Open for everyone My first question is: "who is this for?" The interface, and experience look great. But who needs this? Who is pulling out their hair looking for a new hosted publishing platform that they don't control? Maybe this is a "hair-on-fire" (Patio11) problem for some folks - but I couldn't tell from the blog post. I think this is a mistake a lot of us make when we're marketing, writing about our products:…

It's for the intersection of people a) who want a blog and b) who want a website with a good design. Medium beat Svbtle to the punch, though.

Svbtle has been around longer than Medium although you had to apply to use it (or there is a pretty popular wordpress knockoff theme).

Re: Open for everyone

#48

Post by Karunamon »

debacle wrote: post #42
quadrangle wrote: post #22

"Open" for use but not for inspection / modification / sharing… It's like all sorts of SaaS: it's a lock-in, a jail, that is open for you to enter. Ok, that's a bit harsh. But still, we've got lots of good tools like this, we don't need another proprietary thing. It looks nice though, would be useful if it were fully FLOSS.

Don't blame svbtle. It's the monetization strategy of the Internet, and has been for 20 years.

I can and do blame them for (apparently) not having an export function.

Re: Open for everyone

#49

Post by lccarrasco »

aroman wrote: post #39
minimaxir wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's an interesting UX decision since I'm pretty sure you could undo Kudos on the previous version of Svbtle years ago. Are non-undoable likes the logical progression to the likes-only-no-dislikes method of social media validation?

I don't think they ever had an undo feature. I remember when the platform was first introduced... people complained about it then too. Plus I'm pretty sure it's only been around for ~<2 years.

I remember trying it when it was popular and after mistakenly giving a kudo I could "undo" it by clicking the same icon.

Re: Open for everyone

#50

Post by roryokane »

danielsiders wrote: post #28
orblivion wrote: post #3

I did not mean to give you a Kudo. I don't care for that button interface. Unless I can undo it, then I like it.

I agree, but isn't this an HN problem too, with upvotes? (If it's possible to un-up or down vote a story or comment on HN, please someone tell me how!)

HN doesn’t let you un-upvote something either, but you need to un-upvote something on HN far less often than on Svbtle. On Svbtle, it is very easy to accidentally “kudos” a post, because all you have to do is move your mouse over the kudos circle, and the site doesn’t warn you that doing so will trigger a kudos. On HN, at least you have to click a button-looking thing to trigger the non-undoable action of upvoting.
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