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Uber sued by family of six-year-old killed in San Francisco crash

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Re: Uber sued by family of six-year-old killed in San Francisco crash

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What if he wasn't currently en-route to pick up a passenger but had the app open, available to be assigned a new ride? My guess is that he had recently dropped off a passenger and was trying to get back to a location that he thought would make it more likely for him to be selected for another ride. Do you think Uber should be liable then?

Why isn't Uber liable? Let's say I am a developer working at FooCorp and my employer provides an insurance for any accidents caused during work. Now while I was having my lunch, there was a fire in kitchen that killed 2 employees. Now would it be fair for my employer to say that since the 2 employees weren't writing code when the accident happened, they are not liable for the accident?

I'm trying to break this down. I haven't decided yet whether or not Uber should be liable, but your analogy isn't working for me.

Per your analogy, I'm guessing that for the sake of argument in your mind, Uber driver was working for Uber.

Your analogy goes:

1. A has employee B.

2. A has insurance for accidents affecting B during work.

3. A was physically associated with an accident that affected B.

4. B was not working at time of accident.

5. If, 1, 2, 3, and 4, then A is not liable for accident.

6. Therefore, A is not liable for accident.

I think the point of contention in the Uber case is whether #4 is true. If #4 is false, your conclusion doesn't work. Ways that #4 can be false have already been discussed thoroughly in these comments.

Again, I haven't decided for myself whether or not Uber should be liable. But this argument doesn't convince me that Uber shouldn't be liable.

Re: Uber sued by family of six-year-old killed in San Francisco crash

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Uber, Lyft and its ilk are half innovative, efficient tech services and half hypercapitalist scavengers employing workers while avoiding paying those pesky benefits, worker's compensation or damages to a dead six year old's family.

As a user f Uber since very early on, I half agree, half disagree. Uber is awesome -- ut the costing model fucking sucks. When in SF I lived in Presidio and Upper Market/Noe Valley area... Getting the SF cabs to come to my house was so infuriating; nobody wanted to come pick me up in Presidio or Noe Valley. I was actually banned from multiple cab companies, as - it turns out - they share caller data: I was calling mu…

I've taken UberX to the airport and it's been $5 over the cost of a cab when I take a cab.

The reason Uber black car costs $65 (not sure if they charge more from Presidio) is because it is still cheaper than taking a black car limo from an agency. Black car is a luxury good.

Uber is great for within the city and UberX is now cheaper than a cab in a lot of cases. $7 home for me vs $12 for a cab. It replaces cars for a lot of people and the demand they've had for it shows that it IS sustainable. It's an amazing alternative over cabs, price included.

Re: Uber sued by family of six-year-old killed in San Francisco crash

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Uber, Lyft and its ilk are half innovative, efficient tech services and half hypercapitalist scavengers employing workers while avoiding paying those pesky benefits, worker's compensation or damages to a dead six year old's family.

As a user f Uber since very early on, I half agree, half disagree. Uber is awesome -- ut the costing model fucking sucks. When in SF I lived in Presidio and Upper Market/Noe Valley area... Getting the SF cabs to come to my house was so infuriating; nobody wanted to come pick me up in Presidio or Noe Valley. I was actually banned from multiple cab companies, as - it turns out - they share caller data: I was calling mu…

SuperShuttle provides cheap rides to and from airports (flat rate, so esp. good for say presidio) and actually shows up at obscure locations or calls if they can't find you.
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