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Re: How To Find Unadvertised Jobs

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Post by kika » Mon, Jan 13, 2014, 7:58 AM UTC

moron4hire wrote: post #35

auctiontheory wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it better to let a recruitment company do the hard work for you? If you want to entrust your professional future to someone who doesn't understand the work you do and whose interests aren't necessarily aligned with yours, sure. Recruiters aren't all bad - they can be one prong of your job-search strategy. (I just found a great startup job through a recruiter.) But don't put them in charge. And read Ask The Head…

"Recruiters aren't all bad" I keep hearing it, but I haven't really ever seen it.

I used some good recruiters, as an employer.

Re: How To Find Unadvertised Jobs

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Post by kika » Mon, Jan 13, 2014, 8:04 AM UTC

It could be a waste of your resources, because many such listings are actually not designed to lure good qualified prospects, they have a completely opposite intent - lure idiots and unqualified people. Even if you apply, they'll talk to you, then talk again, then disqualify you on some ridiculous grounds.

I'm talking about Green Card PERM process in these companies. The law mandates them to advertise, but their intent is to prove to the DOL that there's no adequate candidates around. They _already have_ someone for this position, moreover, this person (most likely) already occupies this position, they just started his/her GC process.

Re: How To Find Unadvertised Jobs

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Post by lsc » Mon, Jan 13, 2014, 10:20 AM UTC

Theodores wrote: post #5

Isn't it better to let a recruitment company do the hard work for you? In a technical job market there are recruitment consultants that know all of the companies, what might work for you and where there might be a need. In my experience they do provide a very good service. However, we tend to dislike them when they are not needed so we might overlook them as our first point of call.

>In a technical job market there are recruitment consultants that know all of the companies, what might work for you and where there might be a need. In my experience they do provide a very good service. However, we tend to dislike them when they are not needed so we might overlook them as our first point of call.

wait, really? There exist recruitment consultants who are paid by the employee, and not the employer?

I mean, I'm mostly asking 'cause I kinda want that job. I think I'd be good at it; I have a pretty good track record of getting my friends jobs. Hell, I'd show up for the interview.

(If you are talking about the regular kind of recruiters, who are paid by the hiring company... that's a very different thing. They can be useful, but you need to remember who they actually work for.)