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Re: The New York Times Redesign is Live

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post #18

I hope they find ways to speed things up. When I return to the main page from a story, I have to wait five seconds while items on the front page bounce around as things load. This is on a very fast connection and a mac pro.

They have some extremely poor performance optimizations err NO performance optimizations on the front page. TONS of individual unscaled images loading. Someone might want to introduce them to a product called "Pagespeed"...

Re: The New York Times Redesign is Live

#42

I like the clean typography, and appreciate that they were content with subtle changes rather than something "radical." But why, oh why, did they add one of those horrible floating bars at the top of the screen? Those things almost always break page-down, yo!

The only time I dislike the top bar is when they're too tall or there's not enough height in the view port. I think this one is as good as they get, though. I do wish they only enabled it at a minimum height. Designers only seem to think about min-width, not so much min-height.

Re: The New York Times Redesign is Live

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So they still hold on to the old train of thought of desktop users and mobile users. Shame really.

As a person that currently maintains separate versions for desktop and mobile - it is not shameful. It is just good sense. You are still constrained with a lot of low power devices on the mobile side and old versions of IE on the desktop side. So it is big PITA to reconcile all of this. In 5 year they will converge but right now it is too early.

The needs of both are the same: simple, readable design. Every time I see a site with these two versions I've found that I preferred one to the other, on both devices - either the desktop version's better even on mobile, or (usually) the mobile version's better even on desktop.

Re: The New York Times Redesign is Live

#45

If I may take a moment to whinge and whine a tad; Websites like this infuriate me because for all their "design", sites like Reddit and HN (which are basically just lists) are delivering news in a much more consumable fashion, better suited to the eating habits of the common or garden user. Who's to blame? The designers with their need to make their own mark? The suits with their demands that the business needs be me…

My dad finds sites like Reddit/Digg/HN totally overwhelming, and I doubt he's alone. It's generational. Sites like NYT use standard design techniques to direct your attention (font size, etc) that work really well for people that are more-accustomed to traditional media. And, frankly, seeing a huge-headline is a much more-immediate way to indicate the importance of a topic than scanning down a list and looking for stories with lots of upvotes or comments.

Re: The New York Times Redesign is Live

#47
post #11

Seems like they increased the font size, at least slightly? Which would definitely be a positive thing in my opinion. Anyone have side-by-side screenshots?

This page shows older versions of the site in a carousel towards the bottom: http://www.nytimes.com/redesign/

Seems like 2007 was the key year for change. Since then it's been more evolutionary.

Re: The New York Times Redesign is Live

#48
The design is overall asthetically pleasing. I just can't fucking take this trend of fixed bars molesting my vertical resolution and screwing with my habitual behavior of scanning from the top of the page down as I scroll. This site's top bar on single pages is so edgy that it's not even at the very top (a concept I've at least gotten acclimated to) and manages to blend into the actual article content due to low contrast.

Please just stop doing this, everyone! We do not need a bar following us everywhere by default. As long as it doesn't cause render lag, fixed elements are fine when they're small buttony icons that expand.

At least they've gotten the snap-back right. Some sites, when scrolled to the top, do this awkward infuriating stuttery clip-in nonsense where the scroll position changes as the menu fits back into the content. Just stop.

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