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Open Letter to Google About Rap Genius SEO

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Re: Open Letter to Google About Rap Genius SEO

#41

Well played. The Bieber song linked in the first paragraph is the one they wanted pushed in the first place to get their page rank up. Looks like an apology but is a huge SEO push.

This is hilarious. They thought no one would notice. I have no opinion on any of this but I found this detail amusingly ironic.

Re: Open Letter to Google About Rap Genius SEO

#42

This site should be penalized up the wazoo. This "non-apology" apology, is the classic example of a tattletale at school...the classic excuse of its not my fault cuz everyone is doing it...more importantly, it is wrong, and demonstrates a "our sh don't stick mentality" exchanging a tweet for a link is considered exchanging services for a link, which does indeed fall under the buying links category.) Furthermore, whil…

> You are in a high interest sector with SO MANY LEGIT STRATEGIES TO ATTRACT HIGH VALUE LINKS NATURALLY... Why are you wasting time with spammy strategies that haven't worked in several years?

When you know your competition is playing dirty, you can join them or choose to rise above. There are legitimate arguments for both. They chose to play dirty, and I wouldn't be surprised if this weakened their position in the long term

Re: Open Letter to Google About Rap Genius SEO

#43
post #42

This site should be penalized up the wazoo. This "non-apology" apology, is the classic example of a tattletale at school...the classic excuse of its not my fault cuz everyone is doing it...more importantly, it is wrong, and demonstrates a "our sh don't stick mentality" exchanging a tweet for a link is considered exchanging services for a link, which does indeed fall under the buying links category.) Furthermore, whil…

> You are in a high interest sector with SO MANY LEGIT STRATEGIES TO ATTRACT HIGH VALUE LINKS NATURALLY... Why are you wasting time with spammy strategies that haven't worked in several years? When you know your competition is playing dirty, you can join them or choose to rise above. There are legitimate arguments for both. They chose to play dirty, and I wouldn't be surprised if this weakened their position in the l…

There's always a choice, but in this case... They chose WRONG. Their strategy most likely wouldnt even work if they didnt get caught. lots of exact match anchor text links around content that is completely irrelevant at the bottom of a blog post, without social sharing matching their backlink profile. (yes, search engines can look at your social sharing pattern with your backlinks and see if something is getting artificial backlinks.)

They chose the short long way... They should have chosen the long short way.

Re: Open Letter to Google About Rap Genius SEO

#44

"With limited tools (Open Site Explorer), we found some suspicious backlinks to some of our competitors:" I thought snitching wasn't cool in the hip hop community?

Ya that seemed really unprofessional. It goes the way of nasty politics. Not matter how screwed up your competitors are, its a cheapshot to point it out, especially in a message trying to justify your own evil doings.

Re: Open Letter to Google About Rap Genius SEO

#46

This site should be penalized up the wazoo. This "non-apology" apology, is the classic example of a tattletale at school...the classic excuse of its not my fault cuz everyone is doing it...more importantly, it is wrong, and demonstrates a "our sh don't stick mentality" exchanging a tweet for a link is considered exchanging services for a link, which does indeed fall under the buying links category.) Furthermore, whil…

You are very misinformed if you think these strategies do not work. They are a necessity for a startup in very high competition niches.

Take a look at the source of the very reputable: www.usatoday.com/sports/ and search for "NFL Tickets". Blatant link buying by vivid seats. SeatGeek does this all over the place as well. When you have really strong competitors buying links like this and getting away with it--it's the only way to compete.

In my experience Google has never penalized a competitor for doing this in my niche, therefore to compete I have to do it as well.

What Rapgenius is doing is very innocent compared to a lot of what is going on out there.

Re: Open Letter to Google About Rap Genius SEO

#47

This site should be penalized up the wazoo. This "non-apology" apology, is the classic example of a tattletale at school...the classic excuse of its not my fault cuz everyone is doing it...more importantly, it is wrong, and demonstrates a "our sh don't stick mentality" exchanging a tweet for a link is considered exchanging services for a link, which does indeed fall under the buying links category.) Furthermore, whil…

Very childish indeed, it was not an apology at all but a 'they're doing it too' kind of post. I've seen this type of childish behavior on a couple occasions with them (e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NAzQPll7Lo )... I'm quite surprised they decided take this approach. Edit: mirror, since I'm betting the text will be modified soon considering the reactions here. http://pastebin.com/dMh7dgxp

a textbook examples of the dreaded "bro-grammer"

Re: Open Letter to Google About Rap Genius SEO

#49
post #20

This is complicated. 1. rapgenius is probably the least spammy lyrics site on the internet, and definitely so amongst those on the first page of search results. As a consumer, I would not have a problem with Google, et al giving rapgenius results a special algorithmic bump to move them up. I also know that this is an opinion - it may be a popular opinion, but it is still inherently subjective. 2. If I was in rapgeniu…

the least spammy lyrics site on the internet

Is songmeanings spammy at all? They didn't even have ads for the longest time, and they don't do crappy a-dozen-pop-unders like other sites these days.

Re: Open Letter to Google About Rap Genius SEO

#50
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your scenario isn't exactly what happened here. Rather, how would you feel if your friend asked you to link 10 Justin Bieber songs in your Python tutorial?

But two site owners decided that they can benefit each other if they provide links to each other's site. As I said, I am asking my friend to link my Python's and I link his C++. I can treat him a lunch when I get some ad revenue later. Or just a bro hug. I understand it may not actually be showing what is happening here, but there is some gray area I want to explore. I can also be a celebrity and every week I feature…

You seem to keep using examples with friends or buddies, and no one is gonna fault you for sharing a link to your buddies site from your site, especially if you say "Here's my buddies/friends site...you should check them out"..thats genuine

the problem here is they are/were promoting a campaign in which they were asking you to specifically place "beiber" links on your blog, so that they get better page ranks in google.

you and you're buddy (or even a celebrity helping out their friend for free) are trying to share a particular link with your blogs viewers, and that single instance will probably not have a crazy effect on google page rank

RG is trying to game the system by getting bieber backlinks on a bunch of blogs in trade for a tweet...thats against googles rules

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