This site uses Cloudflare and I use Tor, so I can't view it. Could somebody mirror?
How about http://evasi0n.com.nyud.net/l.html
Dear Jailbreak Community
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Re: Dear Jailbreak Community
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's almost certainly a copyright violation in the US, but is it illegal in China for a Chinese company to pay developers to modify another company's software for commercial gain? Another relevant question, would developers in another country be breaking their country's laws by accepting such work? Edit: note that I'm not intending to equate ethicality with legality.
How is this a copyright violation in the US? Or are you just talking about the fact that pirated apps seem to be on this Chinese app store?
Nitrogen is correct, the fuzzyness in the US is around whether or not jailbreaking your own phone is a violation of the DMCA or not (ruled "no", then ruled "yes", not sure where it is at the moment), and then the contractual (civil vs non-civil) issues with running software on your phone without Apple's permission) It is that "grey" area, where folks can give themselves a credible story about how it is "perfectly legal" and so take the money. My point was that they are dealing with people who don't care if its legal or not. (remember they don't "charge" the end users, they charge the app store bundle guy). That guy (or gal) doesn't care about what is or is not legal, they care about money any way they can get it so that the person they got it from can't get it back. Period.
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#43This is interesting. The jailbreak community is a weird place on the edge of free software- normally, "just open source it" is an easy answer to security concerns, but there are understandable reasons not to open-source exploits. However, the whole competition thing between evad3rs and saurik seems kind of strange. Honestly, I wish Apple would just get with the times and allow an appropriate degree of freedom on thei…
> Honestly, I wish Apple would just get with the times and allow an appropriate degree of freedom on their devices
An appropriate degree of freedom is different for you and eight year old children or grandparents. The majority of iOS users have no use for the freedom jailbreakers desire and Apple is creating software for the majority of its customers.
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#44This situation sort of reminds me about the xbox scene, which now seems to mostly be about piracy and profit now, which sort of sucks..
Re: Dear Jailbreak Community
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did they change the text? What I'm seeing is: > SaurikIT had been in talks with Chinese companies regarding potential partnerships, made a counteroffer. We believe they share our views on how a relationship with companies in China currently utilizing jailbreaking might benefit everyone in the community. Unfortunately, the negotiations did not work out. A few days later, we received information that SaurikIT was worki…
Read the paragraph you accurately summarized again: you managed to make the inference, but what they actually wrote was akin to "we decided to release because we didn't want Saurik to be first," not "we decided to release because we could lose our contract and money."
Payment was conditional on being first and being exclusive. You do not pay 1 million dollars to be second out the gate, particularly because you can simply copy the first guy's work.
Unless the evad3rs released first, they would not get paid. Or, more accurately, they would have to return money. I don't think they were excited by that prospect.
This evad3rs letter is, to use clapper-ism, "the least untruthful statement"
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#46I'm still baffled as to why someone would want to buy a locked up device and be forced to use frequent / complicated measures to be somewhat freed... I understand if you didn't get a choice at first, but I people realizing they are really stuck in a jail anyway, without any jailbreaks, might do more good than having them. (Though I encourage breaking things! ;)
Sometimes you buy it because you like the hardware and know the software is coming down the line. I've done this twice.
- I bought an Android phone that had terrible reviews on Amazon come, knowing that there was a cyanogenmod ROM that'd solve everything.
- I bought the new Kindle Fire HDX because I love the hardware design and knew a hack would show up for it eventually. Sure enough, the "put_user" kernel memory write exploit was found and now I have root on it. I'm sure cyanogenmod ROMs will be coming later on. Until then, I don't even use the HDX. Why didn't I just wait until the root showed up first before purchasing? Because updates to firmware might seal the exploit. So, just like I did with Sony PSP, it's best to get the hardware with early firmware and just never bring the device online for any updates. Just wait for the hack. My HDX still hasn't been exposed to the interwebz. That won't happen until Cyanogenmod is flashed on it. Until then, I'm still using my firstgen Kindle Fire.
I bet some people bought an iPhone fully expecting that one day a jailbreak would show up.
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#47I'm still baffled as to why someone would want to buy a locked up device and be forced to use frequent / complicated measures to be somewhat freed... I understand if you didn't get a choice at first, but I people realizing they are really stuck in a jail anyway, without any jailbreaks, might do more good than having them. (Though I encourage breaking things! ;)
Because sometimes it's simpler to get what you want by subtraction rather than by addition.
More formally, my ideal device is x. The iPhone (4s) is at x + δ and all the other smartphones are at x - δn (where δ > 0 and n is a really big number)†.
I like the App Store but I don't like the restriction against installing non-approved apps (including my own).
I love Safari/Webkit but I don't like the restriction against using other rendering engines.
I like the the default apps (mail and maps are fine) but I don't like the restriction against changing those defaults.
I like tethering and don't even mind paying a little extra for the bandwidth, but I do not like the fact that my carrier can preempt that ability at the OS layer rather than the network layer.
On the other hand, I do acknowledge that buying and owning an iPhone basically supports eco-system that I despise, and for that reason, my next phone will probably be a Nexus or MotoX.
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#48BTW, if anyone was going to post this to reddit, don't bother. I posted it to /r/technology and /r/apple but davidreiss666 removed both links with no explanation.
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Re: Dear Jailbreak Community
#49This is interesting. The jailbreak community is a weird place on the edge of free software- normally, "just open source it" is an easy answer to security concerns, but there are understandable reasons not to open-source exploits. However, the whole competition thing between evad3rs and saurik seems kind of strange. Honestly, I wish Apple would just get with the times and allow an appropriate degree of freedom on thei…
> Honestly, I wish Apple would just get with the times and allow an appropriate degree of freedom on their devices An appropriate degree of freedom is different for you and eight year old children or grandparents. The majority of iOS users have no use for the freedom jailbreakers desire and Apple is creating software for the majority of its customers.
That's not an argument against a button in Settings that says, "I understand the risks, now unlock my device."
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#50I'm still baffled as to why someone would want to buy a locked up device and be forced to use frequent / complicated measures to be somewhat freed... I understand if you didn't get a choice at first, but I people realizing they are really stuck in a jail anyway, without any jailbreaks, might do more good than having them. (Though I encourage breaking things! ;)
Some people just don't care to make things better. I can't tell you know many friends I have with Galaxy S3s running the stock firmware.
Even my sister is on cm10.2.
I sold my iPhone when the GS3 came out because I was sick of waiting for an exploit that let me have more than nine icons on my home screen.