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The Hack That Brought Foursquare Back From The Dead

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Re: The Hack That Brought Foursquare Back From The Dead

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post #33

I always loathed Foursquare because it interfered with social occassions. You and some buddies walk into a location, and suddenly everyone has to take out cell phones. It's relieving to hear that the company's strategy was always to become less obtrusive. I may actually download the new app now.

I've actually found it to be a social benefit myself. Most of the people I go out with use it and we tend to compete and discuss what picture and tagline we're going to use and who is better and who checks in first. Much of the time the conversation later goes on to what cool things our friends did lately or if we can tell it is snowing somewhere better through 4sq or Instagram, often with much showing of the phones…

"I guess younger generations build technology into their lives whereas for older people it is just an interruption."

I hardly speak for every obsolete senior citizen over the age of 25, but its more of a perception of what is good or bad taste rather than neo-amish-ness. Social etiquette. For any elderly geezer over the age of, perhaps, 30, walking into a social occasion and ignoring the meatspace people to instead play with a phone would be considered intentionally highly insulting. If gentlemanly behavior means always doing everything possible to increase the comfort of those around you, which is a reasonable short definition, ignoring people to play on the phone doesn't score very high.

Re: The Hack That Brought Foursquare Back From The Dead

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post #10

To save you some reading, the crux of the hack is to consider a weak GPS (etc) signal not as a lack of data, but rather as a source of data in itself: the fact that the GPS signal is weak tells you something about the user's probable location.

Thank you! God I hate Wired's writing so much.

Re: The Hack That Brought Foursquare Back From The Dead

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"if you live in NYC or SF it's a lot more useful than it's been to me" It seems like services that bring people from vast geographic distances (e.g. Facebook, Twitter) have a longer life than services the geo-limit the audience. If you're in NYC, SF, or LA, geo-limited services work due to density, but you the threshold seems to dive after a couple of cities down the list. Color was the ultimate example for me on som…

It's the density that make Foursquare more popular in SF and NYC but rather the demographics of those areas, modern, high tech centers of urban sophistication. The fly over states are more concerned with the latest developments in pickups and gun racks to care much about checking in at the hottest espresso bar.

Yeah, if only those rednecks in places like Huntsville, Alabama (most engineers and PhD per capita) or Houston would stop focusing on banalities like jet propulsion[1] and subsea robots[2] and spend more time "checking in" to bars on their cell phones, then they could perhaps catch up with the futurists living on the coasts.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Space_Flight_Center

[2] http://subseacompanies.com/

Re: The Hack That Brought Foursquare Back From The Dead

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foursquare is still around? Hyperbole aside, I thought foursquare was an excellent idea - and if more businesses around me used it, I"d probably still be using it myself. (Reading the article, it seems that if you live in NYC or SF it's a lot more useful than it's been to me.) As it is, I think the last time I even looked at it was nearly six months ago.

"if you live in NYC or SF it's a lot more useful than it's been to me" It seems like services that bring people from vast geographic distances (e.g. Facebook, Twitter) have a longer life than services the geo-limit the audience. If you're in NYC, SF, or LA, geo-limited services work due to density, but you the threshold seems to dive after a couple of cities down the list. Color was the ultimate example for me on som…

What did Colour actually do? I thought it was something about showing pictures taken near you, but I gave it a go in Sydney Australia; either no-one was using it here or I was using it wrong due to the pretty but meaningless interface.

Re: The Hack That Brought Foursquare Back From The Dead

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post #32
post #2

This problem isn't solved yet. For me at least. I turned on the passive notifications, and they started going off when I was traveling on above ground sections of the subway. Or when I got out by my office. So I turned them off. Somehow Foursquare needs to crack working out when I want those notifications and when they're irrelevant. They should have enough data to do it.

Yeah, I've been using 4sq for years and still do, but just don't have any use for the passive notifications. They only crop up when I'm going somewhere or doing something already. Most amusingly, they've been showing up on flights lately and they are actually correct. Not sure how that even happens since I know Google's WiFi database tends to just have the wrong location for train and plane WiFi in my experience. I'l…

I've actually never used Four Square myself but I saw a lot of people use it back in the day... This new feature seems like just the stepping stone for them to implement what they really want, so hopefully in the near future it'll process the type of data you two have mentioned here.

Re: The Hack That Brought Foursquare Back From The Dead

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foursquare is still around? Hyperbole aside, I thought foursquare was an excellent idea - and if more businesses around me used it, I"d probably still be using it myself. (Reading the article, it seems that if you live in NYC or SF it's a lot more useful than it's been to me.) As it is, I think the last time I even looked at it was nearly six months ago.

From NYC and I use it almost everyday. Especially when traveling and looking for things to do and places to go, foursquare is quite useful. It replaces Yelp for me.

same for me. I also use it to remember places I've gone to, so I can find them again. Foursquare is incredibly helpful for that.

Re: The Hack That Brought Foursquare Back From The Dead

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the density that make Foursquare more popular in SF and NYC but rather the demographics of those areas, modern, high tech centers of urban sophistication. The fly over states are more concerned with the latest developments in pickups and gun racks to care much about checking in at the hottest espresso bar.

While it's true that people in rural areas often don't care about the same things that people in big cities care about that doesn't mean they are oblivious or opposed to new technology. I have a friend who is a commercial poultry farmer in rural Mississippi. He can turn on his chicken house feeders from anywhere in the world with a smart phone app. Some of the coolest technology being built is farm-related. People, n…

People, no matter where they live, just want technology that makes their lives better in some way.

But they are different than the people who just want technology and see it as its own end.

Re: The Hack That Brought Foursquare Back From The Dead

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"if you live in NYC or SF it's a lot more useful than it's been to me" It seems like services that bring people from vast geographic distances (e.g. Facebook, Twitter) have a longer life than services the geo-limit the audience. If you're in NYC, SF, or LA, geo-limited services work due to density, but you the threshold seems to dive after a couple of cities down the list. Color was the ultimate example for me on som…

What did Colour actually do? I thought it was something about showing pictures taken near you, but I gave it a go in Sydney Australia; either no-one was using it here or I was using it wrong due to the pretty but meaningless interface.

It basically was a hyper-local app that would gather pictures from multiple people at an event. You basically had the same luck that people in rural areas would have with that app as it was useless outside an "event". I do question the wisdom of using an app to bring people together that are already together.
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