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> $123.00 HOURLY RATE Wow. What is your usual rate outside of oDesk?
That's a pretty common software contracting rate ($90-120).
And it's actually not too far away from full time employee rates.
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Yeah, so income on oDesk for hard workers is brutally disappointing. euro 20k/8 = 2.5k /month 1200/8 = 150 hours /month ~= 40 hours/week That's actually not that bad for being a programmer in, say, Eastern Europe, but it's rapidly becoming a rather bad wage even there.
Actually, 150 hours/month is more like 37.5 hours a week (7.5 hours, mon-fri). IMNHO there's actually quite a difference between that and a full 40 hour week. This all assumes no work outside the 1200 hours, obviously.
Surely half an hour a day doesn't make a lot of difference? Many people spend more on their commute.
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#438 months worth of work for only $20k? This doesn't sound like a successful experience - more like you were highly over worked and under paid. It probably would have been more beneficial to have marketed your services for 80 hours and be able to land a $20k project as well as a lasting client.
USD20k is a very large sum. It works out to just over 1.2million in INR. Now that's a lot. If all it took to make USD20k a year was 40-50hour work week, I wouldn't feel underpaid at all. And I would be living a life of luxury.
Depends where in India you live.
Real estate is not cheap in Mumbai.
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#45Sadly, the linked site is a classic case of 'tab closed, didn't read':
http://i.imgur.com/ZsZxfP3.png
I am of course referring to http://tabcloseddidntread.com/. http://crapshaming.tumblr.com/ would fit too.
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> 8 months worth of work for only $20k? This doesn't sound like a successful experience On the internet, which is kinda global, not everybody is paid US/Western EU salary rates, you know right?
Yes, but that drives me crazy! With the internet you aren't held down by your local economic wage and yet there are people like this guy who works like a dog and undercuts everyone with crazy cheap prices which brings down the global value of developers on sites like odesk. While I am sure he is a great developer, my point was that he could have worked less, raised his prices, gained better clients, and overall built…
It's not worth getting worked up over. If you sell your services for $x there is always somebody willing to sell for $x - 1.
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#48Maybe I'll try a fake beard myself. A neckbeard even.
Don't forget to add a fedora aswell.
Re: After working +1200 hours in oDesk
#49Sadly, the linked site is a classic case of 'tab closed, didn't read': http://i.imgur.com/ZsZxfP3.png I am of course referring to http://tabcloseddidntread.com/ . http://crapshaming.tumblr.com/ would fit too.
Someone should make a tumblr of HN comments about not reading submissions. It's not helpful; people are on this page to discuss the story, not why chmars didn't read it.
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#50What was your income after that much if I may ask? I always wondered how it compared to just getting word of mouth referrals from freelancing.
His profile shows $17.78/hr so probably around $20-25K. Depending on variations in his rate.
If you check his work history, you see that he works for a way lower number. The hourly rate in freelancer profiles are very often just for display.