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Icelandic Police kill someone for the first time.

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This article[0] refers to 1.8 homicides per 100,000 people per year, or about 5 per year. So the ratio is much much lower than the USA. edit: [0] http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22288564

OECD says 0.3 per 100,000, or about 1 per year: http://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/countries/iceland . Your article says "never went above 1.8" but apparently in 2009 and 2011, they had just one homicide each year. So maybe there was a freak year with 5...

That makes sense, should have read more closely.

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And how often does this happen: "Police regret this incident and would like to extend their condolences to the family of the man," Icelandic police chief Haraldur Johannessen told reporters.

All the time? We've just become too cynical to believe it, or pay it much mind.

Just because i think it seems to be an interesting fact:

Killed people by police in 2012:

  U.S.: 587
  Germany: 3
Even less in Canada or the UK.

(From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforc... + the links at the bottom)

Re: Icelandic Police kill someone for the first time.

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The most striking thing about this, besides the (morbid) milestone, is this statement:

> "Police regret this incident and would like to extend their condolences to the family of the man," Icelandic police chief Haraldur Johannessen told reporters.

Is it because the Icelandic state is more humane? Maybe, but more likely, it's because it was unprepared for such an incident. I can't imagine a standard police department issuing regret because it would be a statement that could easily be used against them in court (justified or not).

A couple of recent NY incidents come to mind:

- A couple months ago, the NYPD shot at a man they considered dangerous...not only did they miss the man (who they later tasered), they ended up shooting two innocent women, as it was Times Square. No statement of regret made: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/16/nyregion/firing-at-man-in-...

- A year ago, police shot and killed a man who had just gunned down another man near the Empire State building. They hit their target...and injured nine bystanders. A lawsuit was filed in that case: http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/22/justice/new-york-nypd-lawsuit/

Re: Icelandic Police kill someone for the first time.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforce... so far, in 2013

Wow. If you ever want to read something that's a major downer in the afternoon.

Just found the same article.. It really is a HUGE difference, wow. In 2012 there have been hundreds of killings in the US and below 10 (in a whole year) in either Canada or the UK or Germany. Now, i'm quite convinced that it's entirely possible noone was ever shot in Iceland (by police) until now.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6836944

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While I don't know the facts it doesn't seem unreasonable to me that the police has never killed anyone in Iceland. It's a small and peaceful country. I'm from Denmark, which is culturally fairly close to Iceland and we still talk about the riot in 1993 where the police fired 111 shots in the most violent encounter with rioters since the second world war (noone was killed or seriously injured). We're a country of 5 m…

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