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Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor

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Re: Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor

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Post by prutschman »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #27
Amadou wrote: post #3

With the 39" Seiki 4K "tv" at less than $500 shipped, the $3,500 pricing level on the Dells seems excessive. I'm certain the Dells are better monitors, but are they 700% better? If Seiki revs their model line-up to include display-port, all these official monitors will really be in trouble. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DOPGO2G

A 4K 39" TV has less resolution than a 4K 24" monitor. Just do the math! This isn't about real estate; it is easy to buy a big monitor, but about pixel density.

Your point about the importance of pixel density is a good one, but the pedantry is misplaced. Resolution in the context of display resolution has referred to pixel count, not pixel density, for decades.

Re: Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor

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Post by mortenjorck »

cclogg wrote: post #23
hyperbovine wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Resolution isn't the only consideration when buying a new monitor. Sure it is! Reading on a monitor is pure torture ever since I bought a Retina MBP. If this is anywhere close to being affordable (realistically: no) I'd buy it for that reason alone.

I love my new Retina MBP, however the most annoying thing I found was dealing with so many non-retina things that look hideously blurry lol. I don't have a problem with the screen though, but weirdly enough in the last year or so I've had real problems with iPads. Like if I read or use it for even a short while, I get that nauseous headache feeling. Apparently it might have to do with LED screens.

Dealing with other lower-DPI screens is what I thought my problem would be, but the biggest issue I've found with moving to a Retina MacBook Pro are the drawbacks of the technology being so new.

Compared with my old CCFL-backlit desktop LCD, the Retina Display's backlight is far less uniform, and whites have a more readily perceptible color shift across the screen. It's not enough to qualify for a replacement (trust me, I tried), but it's nonetheless distracting enough to make me want to do most of my design work on my standard-DPI monitor.

Re: Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor

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Post by MichaelGG »

solox3 wrote: post #21

I have recently gotten a taste of ultra high resolution monitors. My coworker got the new Dell XPS 15, which has a QHD+ 3200x1800 screen. Just a heads up to coders, unless you plan to hunch your back or get new glasses, very few of you will enjoy the screen as much as you think you would.

Set DPI scaling to get it to 2560x1440 "equivalent"? Not a general solution since so many apps misbehave, but if you're coding and spending most of the time in the editor, you get the extra real estate, plus the extra crispness in font rendering.

Re: Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor

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Post by Achshar »

hyperbovine wrote: post #20
sillysaurus2 wrote: post #16

Watch out for problems with the monitor. New ultra-high-def monitors often have problems such as lag or poor color accuracy. Before buying this, you need to wait until a professional with a colorimeter and a lagmeter evaluates this monitor if you remotely care about color accuracy or gaming. Resolution isn't the only consideration when buying a new monitor.

> Resolution isn't the only consideration when buying a new monitor. Sure it is! Reading on a monitor is pure torture ever since I bought a Retina MBP. If this is anywhere close to being affordable (realistically: no) I'd buy it for that reason alone.

I think you are underestimating the weight of the word "torture" here. I mean sure it can be better but torture? Really?

Re: Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor

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Post by Crito »

Encosia wrote: post #24
solox3 wrote: post #21

I have recently gotten a taste of ultra high resolution monitors. My coworker got the new Dell XPS 15, which has a QHD+ 3200x1800 screen. Just a heads up to coders, unless you plan to hunch your back or get new glasses, very few of you will enjoy the screen as much as you think you would.

Why's that? I picked up a QHD+ Samsung a few weeks ago and have been loving it for development work. All of the development tools I've needed so far have respected Windows' DPI scaling (which came set at 200% on the Samsung, making it easy to spot when a program failed to scale correctly). The only major culprit so far has been Dropbox, which is infuriatingly frustrating to use at HiDPI. So bad it makes me want to mo…

How much do you actually interact with dropbox's UI? I would think that most of the time you would just be using it through the standard file/directory interaction things (file browsers, shell, etc).

Re: Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor

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Post by ekianjo »

chucknelson wrote: post #2

I'm left wondering how long until we have mainstream video cards capable of driving games at these resolutions? Seems like we're a ways off...

Oh yes, we are way, way off at this stage. Check this recent benchmark from Phoronix (on Linux, at least, Windows gaming may be a little better in performance...): http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_uhd...

With a Titan card from nVidia, maxing out at 20 FPS on Unigine, it's pretty depressing. We need to see a 2 to 3x fold performance increase in graphics cards for gaming to be realistic on 4k screens.

Re: Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor

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Post by dangrossman »

solox3 wrote: post #21

I have recently gotten a taste of ultra high resolution monitors. My coworker got the new Dell XPS 15, which has a QHD+ 3200x1800 screen. Just a heads up to coders, unless you plan to hunch your back or get new glasses, very few of you will enjoy the screen as much as you think you would.

With DPI scaling set to 2x in Windows 8.1, text editors look no different than on a 1600x900 screen.

I code all day in Sublime on a 2560x1440 13" laptop at 1.5x scaling (Asus UX301LA-DH71T).

Re: Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor

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Post by kbar13 »

sillysaurus2 wrote: post #16

Watch out for problems with the monitor. New ultra-high-def monitors often have problems such as lag or poor color accuracy. Before buying this, you need to wait until a professional with a colorimeter and a lagmeter evaluates this monitor if you remotely care about color accuracy or gaming. Resolution isn't the only consideration when buying a new monitor.

Until the monitor supports at least 60hz I would say it's unusable for gaming.

Re: Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor

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Post by kllrnohj »

chucknelson wrote: post #2

I'm left wondering how long until we have mainstream video cards capable of driving games at these resolutions? Seems like we're a ways off...

4K is totally doable with a single GPU if you drop to using medium/high instead of very high/ultra quality settings for even the most demanding of games: http://hardocp.com/article/2013/11/11/geforce_gtx_780_ti_vs_...

For the majority of games 4K won't pose an issue whatsoever with a modern high end video card.

Re: Dell Leaks Details of a 24” UHD 4K (3840x2160) Monitor

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Post by Cherian »

mortyseinfeld wrote: post #17
cpks wrote: post #4

Dude. Sweet! If the price is reasonable, I'll buy 2-4 for my desktop. I'd love to have the knock-off cheap dead pixels Korean version even more, actually.

I picked up a couple Korean 27" 1440ps for the desktop for around $300 and loving them. They're even overclockable.

Can you provide more links to where I can buy them?
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