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Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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some tech has short run; and some entertainment has long runs (like ER TV show), but these are exceptions to the rule. Your search engine, Google has enjoyed a 14 year run, and is going strong. Windows OS has enjoyed a nearly 30 years run so far. Kardashians on the other hand, enjoyed only a couple of years of popularity. This is what I mean.

Facebook has to evolve from being entertainment, to being technology. For example, look at Steam. It's a platform for distributing games. It's not going away any time soon. They work to improve the platform. They're going to open the platform up, so everyone can publish games. They're not simply a website that tries to sell you games. Facebook needs to do the same if they want to survive. They need to stop being a so…

Facebook is already a hugely popular social networking platform. Facebook login is the most immediately visible aspect of this platform.

Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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A see a huge problem with the shared profit thing, with virtual worthless points like Likes you already have all sorts of retardness from people dying to pull a hit stunt to profile for a dead baby mummy, can you imagine if the users were paid for the attention their posts get? "A thousand likes or this kitty goes in the microwave". I think the nice new place to be would be one where you are not the product, doesn't…

Wow you sure exploited that fast, and in such a dark manner. Congrats!

Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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The social networks are like TV shows. They have a limited run. This is because it's entertainment, rather than tech. Hollywood knows how this works, and they do not incorporate or IPO each individual TV show: instead they incorporate studios, that produce many different shows. Facebook is forced into this model too by reality, thus they bought Instagram, and tried to buy Snapchat. Those shows will also have a limite…

You haven't provided any evidence that social networks in fact behave like TV shows.

The fact that one effect of social networks is to entertain people, and the fact that TV shows also have the effect of entertaining people, does not imply social networks are therefore bound to the rules/generalizations of TV shows.

Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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We are building a platform network around this idea. we believe that a social network is defined by the places were you are regularly (sport club, work, bar). Our plattform lets you communicate with the people at those places even if you are at a rock concert.

Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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How do you think of Reddit in that framework? Reddit itself is explicitly a tool for creating, basically, community sites. How closely does it fit with your vision of a tool for crafting social networks? When do you predict it will fail?

Facebook revolves around making people interesting and providing people-based content to consume. Reddit revolves around people finding interesting content and providing it to others to be consumed with some commentary on the side. I'm not sure how they're comparable. Sure, reddit has a community aspect, but it's really just a side dish compared to the content (links).

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Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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How do you think of Reddit in that framework? Reddit itself is explicitly a tool for creating, basically, community sites. How closely does it fit with your vision of a tool for crafting social networks? When do you predict it will fail?

Facebook revolves around making people interesting and providing people-based content to consume. Reddit revolves around people finding interesting content and providing it to others to be consumed with some commentary on the side. I'm not sure how they're comparable. Sure, reddit has a community aspect, but it's really just a side dish compared to the content (links).

OTOH, subreddits like IAMA, AskScience and ELI5 are fairly significant parts of reddit. In fact, most of the top items in /all are memes that refer back to things that happen within Reddit, so I'm not sure the links to external websites are nearly as important as the community these days.

Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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How do you think of Reddit in that framework? Reddit itself is explicitly a tool for creating, basically, community sites. How closely does it fit with your vision of a tool for crafting social networks? When do you predict it will fail?

Facebook revolves around making people interesting and providing people-based content to consume. Reddit revolves around people finding interesting content and providing it to others to be consumed with some commentary on the side. I'm not sure how they're comparable. Sure, reddit has a community aspect, but it's really just a side dish compared to the content (links).

This simply isn't true.

Many of the subreddits (e.g. the ones dedicated to cities or schools) are far more about the community than the content.

Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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The social networks are like TV shows. They have a limited run. This is because it's entertainment, rather than tech. Hollywood knows how this works, and they do not incorporate or IPO each individual TV show: instead they incorporate studios, that produce many different shows. Facebook is forced into this model too by reality, thus they bought Instagram, and tried to buy Snapchat. Those shows will also have a limite…

Does this mean I'm going to have to rescue my data every time a software/network is "retired"?

'Rescue' might be the wrong word here. A simple transfer, or updated 'address' form would seem more likely. Like when you want to delete a WP blog, it gives you several options for your content/blog (though most imply not owning it anymore).

Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network

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Anyone else feel that no one knows this "next-generation social network" better than, well, the next generation? I'm talking about today's young teens and little kids. Facebook took off during our time because we were the cool demographic back then. It was everything we wanted and needed that MySpace and Friendster failed to give. I think it's difficult for us to comprehend what the next-gen social network will be be…

Is it a coincidence that most of the partners (YC in particular) aren't teens (or in that potential demographic)? If you're good enough, you can spot a hot/interesting product. You raise a very valid point, however, and that's part of the reason why the internet is so rad -- it's ever-evolving.
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