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Webdesign tool Macaw raises $275k on Kickstarter, $200k more than original goal

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Re: Webdesign tool Macaw raises $275k on Kickstarter, $200k more than original goal

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Designers, what is M∀CAW still missing? (serious answers please)

Hard to ask anything specific without using it, but are you also targeting UI designers who create complex web-applications? If so, what are some of the features that will make their lives easier? Sorry for the vague question... I think this will be great for general web page layouts, but maybe a video showing complex form designs and layouts would seal the deal for me.

Re: Webdesign tool Macaw raises $275k on Kickstarter, $200k more than original goal

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post #40

Designers, what is M∀CAW still missing? (serious answers please)

Importing already created projects and editing that website.

I was wondering if there would be any answers about this. Without that feature, it's a one way tool: all changes must be made here, the compiled product can't be usefully edited.

I imagine it would be pretty challenging to parse an existing website into something usable, but it would definitely make the tool a lot more useful (not to say it won't still be useful to lots of people).

Re: Webdesign tool Macaw raises $275k on Kickstarter, $200k more than original goal

#43
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Macaw is much closer to Fireworks than Photoshop. I've never used Fireworks but a colleague of mine did. It's so much better suited for web design. But Adobe failed to market it properly (I actually never heard of Fireworks before 2011, several years after I started). That's probably the reason why it's discontinued. Macaw tries to capitalize on this void left by Fireworks, a void that actually may have never been fi…

Fireworks used to be the bomb about 10 years ago when it was Macromedia that sold it. You used to be able to make animated gifs with it when Photoshop couldn't.

Re: Webdesign tool Macaw raises $275k on Kickstarter, $200k more than original goal

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It's so much easier and rewarding to just learn the basic code to structure a webpage. What if I don't really know much web dev, but master this tool? Where will that get me? "So it shows here you've developed 8 websites for clients, wow, what does your stack look like?" "Oh I kinda just mastered this one specific tool, I don't really know how to code." Reminds me of Dreamweaver days.

I kind of agree. I can't imagine it being popular with professional web developers or designers. Working with modern HTML and CSS is fairly straightforward and quick for development. I see sorting out edge cases and bugs produced by code in Macaw would leave you better off writing the code from scratch. Plus, like you said, this has the benefit of being educational and transferring over to other work. I also can't se…

This idea is awesome. I hope someone builds it.

Re: Webdesign tool Macaw raises $275k on Kickstarter, $200k more than original goal

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post #42
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Importing already created projects and editing that website.

I was wondering if there would be any answers about this. Without that feature, it's a one way tool: all changes must be made here, the compiled product can't be usefully edited. I imagine it would be pretty challenging to parse an existing website into something usable, but it would definitely make the tool a lot more useful (not to say it won't still be useful to lots of people).

IIRC from the video, at Macaw's core is an embedded webkit engine so they might not have to do any parsing at all but instead interface said engine. That being said, I'm not quite sure how difficult it would be to go from having it parsed to making something that can work with the parsed code since it might have a structure that would have to be further parsed to extract the meaning of the code.

Re: Webdesign tool Macaw raises $275k on Kickstarter, $200k more than original goal

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

for people making physical products a cap would make sense. Printrbot was a pretty good example- order fulfillment took a lot longer than anticipated because of the high volume. On the other hand, delivering a desktop application is about equally difficult for 200 customers or 2000 customers, so the Macaw guys should just revel in their extra cash (aside from the stretch goals that they chose to take on as well, and…

Not entirely convinced. Too much money that you are obliged to spend can sink a project just as well as underfunding. Due to some "Mythical man month" reasons adding more people and features can put you in quagmire easily unless you have very good project managers. I am not sure even those could bear the influx of order of magnitude more money than needed. Kickstarters are not preorders.

You don't have to spend the extra money on things that will blow out the schedule.

Anyone aware of the realities of software development enough to think about capping the max should be aware of the mythical man month and cognizant enough to realize they can just bank that extra money as a rainy day fund for when the product almost certainly goes over schedule even with the original plan (Hofstadter's law).

Re: Webdesign tool Macaw raises $275k on Kickstarter, $200k more than original goal

#49

Is it open source? It would be really nice to see this come to Linux eventually too (though, the KS FAQ indicates they're not looking at Linux at the moment).

It always makes me sad when people don't support linux. Especially when they are starting the design for Mac, it shouldn't be that hard to compile for both.

Re: Webdesign tool Macaw raises $275k on Kickstarter, $200k more than original goal

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post #16

Macaw is much closer to Fireworks than Photoshop. I've never used Fireworks but a colleague of mine did. It's so much better suited for web design. But Adobe failed to market it properly (I actually never heard of Fireworks before 2011, several years after I started). That's probably the reason why it's discontinued. Macaw tries to capitalize on this void left by Fireworks, a void that actually may have never been fi…

Full disclosure, my company just released a Photoshop plugin that converts Photoshop images into web sites. First of all, I think the idea behind Macaw is great. A lot of the people at my company really admire their work and there is a solid target market that would want to use Macaw. One of the things to keep in mind is that the target market is, likely, primarily designers and not developers. Important to keep in m…

With the increased growth of mobile devices and massive numbers of screen sizes in existence, how do you plan to handle those issues? What I've seen of Macaw looks like it gives you the ability to write clean, maintainable code that works in many devices and handles media-queries etc. From your examples I looked at, they might as well be absolutely positioned because you're not gaining anything by floating every element and giving it a fixed width and height.
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