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The 11% for IE11 challenge

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Re: The 11% for IE11 challenge

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Wow, the debugger tools looke very nice. Will need to check them out.

Thought so too, but then I remember the lack of "right click->inspect element" and no good plugin api

Click to inspect is in, they even have an example of using it in the linked introduction to developer tools. [1]

/works at Microsoft, but not on IE

[1] http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2013/07/29/debugging-and-...

Re: The 11% for IE11 challenge

#42
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Diversity of implementations on the web is vital for continued innovation. Though it's less important that IE stick with the Trident engine now that Blink and WebKit 2 have diverged, we should celebrate progress and encourage participation in the standards process - things IE has gotten a lot better about especially in the last two iterations. > has been and continues to be hostile to the web I'm going to have to dis…

> things IE has gotten a lot better no it has not. IE9/IE10/IE11 dont even render the same page the same way , dont even get me started on CSS3 support. You want things to get better ? let Microsoft drop the version number.and update its browsers automatically all the way back to IE8... Oh , but why should they do that , they make money by making their os obsolete ... /sarcasm.

> IE9/IE10/IE11 dont even render the same page the same way

One could argue this is because each version is better than the previous. "Better" being relative here.

> they make money by making their os obsolete

This touches on a possible source of the problem. Their insistence on tying browser upgrades to major releases of Windows proves they care more about the revenue from the OS sales than they do about not breaking the web.

I'm encouraged that they have automatic updates now but the jury is out as to whether they'll make use of it in the way Chrome and Firefox have.

Re: The 11% for IE11 challenge

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Doesn't make up for the fact that I spent most of my time writing workaround for the stupid rendering bugs their "30% faster" browser introduces. Even just basic CSS layouts and constantly wrong in IE.

I know, I don't care if they are objectively the best browser (I doubt they are), my grudge against them runs too deep. I want them to fail. Does that make me a bad person?

No. But then again, I feel the same way, so my opinion may be biased.

Re: The 11% for IE11 challenge

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The blog and the 11% for IE11 landing page both imply that if you complete the challenge, you will win the prizes described. For instance, the blog entry says: "If you can get 11% better page load performance from your site, we'll send you and your team some 11 goodness." I'm no lawyer, but that sounds like a valid unilateral contract to me. Similarly, the landing page says: "Show us how you got 11% better page load…

Well now I just feel cheated. How do I un-vote up a story?

You can flag it.

Re: The 11% for IE11 challenge

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post #37
post #24

We need to forget IE for all times, and leave it for M$ own usage

We need to be pragmatic and deliver content to whatever device and software our users use, not hold grumps and use stupid nicknames like "M$".

Microsoft worked hard earning a bad reputation.

Re: The 11% for IE11 challenge

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post #25
post #16

Doesn't make up for the fact that I spent most of my time writing workaround for the stupid rendering bugs their "30% faster" browser introduces. Even just basic CSS layouts and constantly wrong in IE.

I know, I don't care if they are objectively the best browser (I doubt they are), my grudge against them runs too deep. I want them to fail. Does that make me a bad person?

It makes you human.

Re: The 11% for IE11 challenge

#49
post #16

Doesn't make up for the fact that I spent most of my time writing workaround for the stupid rendering bugs their "30% faster" browser introduces. Even just basic CSS layouts and constantly wrong in IE.

In IE11?

Mildly better, at least I don't have to use a workaround to get transparent PNGs to work anymore. It would be alright supporting just IE11, but you're not, you're supporting IE7, IE8, IE9, IE10, and they all have their own weird bugs.
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