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Updated YC Company Hosting Stats

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Re: Updated YC Company Hosting Stats

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Thanks for compiling that list. I didn't know about SoftLayer. I noticed the list mentions Justin.tv hosts itself. Aren't they built on Amazon EC2 and S3?

Justin.tv and Weebly run their own networks. We have BGP-speaking routers that announce our own IP address prefixes to the global internet routing table via multiple transit providers.

Re: Updated YC Company Hosting Stats

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This might be a little bit off topic, but I've always thought that it could make some sense to have a YC colocation. With enough companies, it could be more cost-effective than everyone getting their own slicehost. Of course, there would be a ton of other headaches involved like backups, outages, etc, but a lot of YC companies seem to be doing just fine administering their own boxes in a colo. I know it wouldn't be f…

I think an easier way to do this is for a forward-thinking hosting provider, colo, etc. in the bay area to offer discounted or free hosting to YC companies (free during the YC period, maybe not after); a few months of free hosting to have a shot at a successful site as customer would be more than worth it. (alternatively, convertible debt) Piggybacking on YC's selection process seems like a good business model in gen…

I think this would be a win-win for YC and the hosting provider. The startups would save a little bit of money, and the hosting provider would get a good amount of recurring revenue after the 3 months, since we are unlikely to migrate our servers after spending countless hours setting it up.

Re: Updated YC Company Hosting Stats

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Your information is out of date. We outgrew EC2 a while ago.

Outgrew how?

In a couple different ways. EC2 is an amazing service, but it's not a perfect fit for everyone. We basically wanted to buy cheaper bandwidth and more bandwidth per CPU, and there's no real path for that on EC2.

Re: Updated YC Company Hosting Stats

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There are several. Slicehost has been doing Xen hosting longer. Linode is older, but they were using User Mode Linux (not nearly as good as Xen) for a long time. Slicehost got the mindshare by getting to Xen hosting first. Slicehost is local to all their data centers. Whether in St Louis or Dallas/Ft Worth, their employees actually work there. Linode's employees all work in South Jersey, 2 hours from their Newark dat…

> Slicehost can more easily upgrade your plan. Linode has to switch your box should you want to move plans. Often Slicehost can move plans while keeping you on the same box. I'm on slicehost, and when I upgraded ("resized") a slice, it was not a "live" operation. I don't know whether it's physically the same machine, but the old slice had to be shutdown, file system copied, and a new slice booted. From the "Resize yo…

It's pretty similar on SH and LN. I prefer LN, because you get to decide when it happens. You just get a message in your manager to say you have a migrate pending, and you can shutdown when you like.

When I moved from 1400 to 2800 it was a very speedy operation.

Re: Updated YC Company Hosting Stats

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This might be a little bit off topic, but I've always thought that it could make some sense to have a YC colocation. With enough companies, it could be more cost-effective than everyone getting their own slicehost. Of course, there would be a ton of other headaches involved like backups, outages, etc, but a lot of YC companies seem to be doing just fine administering their own boxes in a colo. I know it wouldn't be f…

I think an easier way to do this is for a forward-thinking hosting provider, colo, etc. in the bay area to offer discounted or free hosting to YC companies (free during the YC period, maybe not after); a few months of free hosting to have a shot at a successful site as customer would be more than worth it. (alternatively, convertible debt) Piggybacking on YC's selection process seems like a good business model in gen…

I have considered offering free hosting to YC companies. Most of them seem to be a bit, ah, brand conscious (thus going for slicehost over linode) so I haven't bothered to push the idea.

But yea, if any YC company needs free hosting (and really, hosting is so cheap these days that it's all pretty much free) I'd be happy to give it to them. I'm younger than linode, but I've been renting Xen VPSs since 2005, which makes me older than slicehost, I believe.

I'm not asking you to go exclusive or anything (in fact, I think that's a bad idea. don't host all your stuff with the same provider.)

That said, I'd be a little surprised if any of the YC companies have to pay for hosting. Many, many ISPs would be happy to give away a little bandwidth in exchange for some publicity.

Re: Updated YC Company Hosting Stats

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Why only 1 on linode? Is there a reason?

There are several. Slicehost has been doing Xen hosting longer. Linode is older, but they were using User Mode Linux (not nearly as good as Xen) for a long time. Slicehost got the mindshare by getting to Xen hosting first. Slicehost is local to all their data centers. Whether in St Louis or Dallas/Ft Worth, their employees actually work there. Linode's employees all work in South Jersey, 2 hours from their Newark dat…

if you want more than 15GiB... use hardware. For less than half what a 16GiB slice sets you back, I'd be happy to rent you your own 8 core server with 32GiB ram.
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